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Initiative for UK citizens to be issued with EU passport

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Re: Initiative for UK citizens to be issued with EU passport

Postby linkwater » Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:31 pm

Jan,
I think the UK goverment pays Spain for treating it's pensioners and EHIC work. I think a Conservative government may find it difficult to explain to vindictive papers like the Express and Mail how that will continue when it's not legally obliged to.
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Re: Initiative for UK citizens to be issued with EU passport

Postby Jillandsteve » Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:02 pm

I agree with Flori that the House of Lords needs reforming but an elected house only means more politicians and would probably result in a minority party have the balance of power
This is the current scenario in Australia where a racist, zenophobic, partly illiterate woman has more pull than she would normally warrant
A house of review is, I belive, far preferable but we don't need lords,maybe a senate with senators but made up of non political people from industry, education, science, medicine fields etc
There job description should be as now ie to review only
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Re: Initiative for UK citizens to be issued with EU passport

Postby Martin the artist » Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:22 am

The problem with UK, NhS and free health cre for EU citizens has been exposed as a UK scandal insofar as UK don't recharge the other EU countries for the health care and are losing millions as a result.
This was exposed last March by Sky News in an interview with MP John Mann.
MP John Mann, who obtained the figures in a parliamentary question, told Sky News that "logically the UK should be receiving more than it pays out".
He estimates "the real cost is a billion pounds a year". 
Mr Mann told Sky News: "Other countries are recharging and we are not.
"The figures are astonishing - we are paying them 70 times more than they are paying us.
"We are paying our bills and they are not paying theirs - because the British NHS is not recharging them.
"There is meant to be a comparable system in place - but it is not being applied in this country and that means we are losing out.
"Every single country is winning against us, be it the super-efficient Swedes or Germans, or countries like Malta or Greece.
"It's a huge scandal."
Source: http://news.sky.com/story/1652305/nhs-scandal-as-uk-pays-millions-to-eu
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Re: Initiative for UK citizens to be issued with EU passport

Postby florimondo » Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:40 am

Martin the artist wrote:The problem with UK, NhS and free health cre for EU citizens has been exposed as a UK scandal insofar as UK don't recharge the other EU countries for the health care and are losing millions as a result.
This was exposed last March by Sky News in an interview with MP John Mann.
MP John Mann, who obtained the figures in a parliamentary question, told Sky News that "logically the UK should be receiving more than it pays out".
He estimates "the real cost is a billion pounds a year".
Mr Mann told Sky News: "Other countries are recharging and we are not.
"The figures are astonishing - we are paying them 70 times more than they are paying us.
"We are paying our bills and they are not paying theirs - because the British NHS is not recharging them.
"There is meant to be a comparable system in place - but it is not being applied in this country and that means we are losing out.
"Every single country is winning against us, be it the super-efficient Swedes or Germans, or countries like Malta or Greece.
"It's a huge scandal."
Source: http://news.sky.com/story/1652305/nhs-scandal-as-uk-pays-millions-to-eu


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The following article by the BBC which seems mostly unbiased [for a change] makes interesting reading and will answer a lot of questions...the truth of the matter is no one really knows,it depends on team Brexits negotiating skills
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-32810887
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Re: Initiative for UK citizens to be issued with EU passport

Postby linkwater » Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:54 am

We really can't blame other EU countries for not paying their bills if the NHS can't be bothered charging them. Personally I think it needs the introduction of SIP type cards in the UK.
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Re: Initiative for UK citizens to be issued with EU passport

Postby donaduo » Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:56 am

The BBC, IS, impartial.

However, if, in it's reporting, it conflicts with your views then it's biased.

It's as simple as that.
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Re: Initiative for UK citizens to be issued with EU passport

Postby donaduo » Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:57 am

linkwater wrote:We really can't blame other EU countries for not paying their bills if the NHS can't be bothered charging them. Personally I think it needs the introduction of SIP type cards in the UK.



An interesting fact that got ignored by the Brexit liars when, twisting the minds of the public
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Re: Initiative for UK citizens to be issued with EU passport

Postby florimondo » Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:14 pm

linkwater wrote:We really can't blame other EU countries for not paying their bills if the NHS can't be bothered charging them. Personally I think it needs the introduction of SIP type cards in the UK.


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couldnt agree more
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Re: Initiative for UK citizens to be issued with EU passport

Postby maisiesdad » Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:44 pm

Martin the artist wrote:The problem with UK, NhS and free health cre for EU citizens has been exposed as a UK scandal insofar as UK don't recharge the other EU countries for the health care and are losing millions as a result.
This was exposed last March by Sky News in an interview with MP John Mann.
MP John Mann, who obtained the figures in a parliamentary question, told Sky News that "logically the UK should be receiving more than it pays out".
He estimates "the real cost is a billion pounds a year".
Mr Mann told Sky News: "Other countries are recharging and we are not.
"The figures are astonishing - we are paying them 70 times more than they are paying us.
"We are paying our bills and they are not paying theirs - because the British NHS is not recharging them.
"There is meant to be a comparable system in place - but it is not being applied in this country and that means we are losing out.
"Every single country is winning against us, be it the super-efficient Swedes or Germans, or countries like Malta or Greece.
"It's a huge scandal."
Source: http://news.sky.com/story/1652305/nhs-scandal-as-uk-pays-millions-to-eu



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And its nothing to do with the EU. The fact is we don't have the inclination or the wits to recoup the money other EU countries do-not sure that brexit negotiations have anything remotely to do with it.
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