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Leaving EU seen from a norwegian

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Re: Leaving EU seen from a norwegian

Postby mondo » Sun Oct 02, 2016 6:31 am

marcliff wrote:
LSpring40 wrote:If you live outside the UK for 6 months you are no longer entitled to free NHS care - I worked in the NHS for over 20 years and one of my areas of work was Reciprocal Healthcare arrangements around the world not just for the small number of countries in the EU so Brexit will not affect this. There are several countries without these arrangements and their citizens need to pay for UK healthcare either privately or via insurance.





One part of the rules changed last year. Expat pensioners who live in Spain are now entitled to use the NHS in UK.
(From NHS England site)
UK state pensioners who live elsewhere in the EEA will now have the same rights to NHS care as people who live in England. This applies to all pensioners who receive a UK state retirement pension and registered for healthcare in Europe with an S1 form.





he bit to note here is the bit that says..UK state pensioners who live elsewhere in the EEA

Soon the UK will not be in the EEA.

Maybe another law that will have to be ripped up.

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Re: Leaving EU seen from a norwegian

Postby linkwater » Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:03 pm

Not fully up to date with the different cards and entitlements but I'm presuming a EHIC or renegotiated E111 is different from a full blown SIP card which resident UK pensioners are entitled to now isn't it?

Can't see a UK government being that fussed in negotiating on behalf of pensioners who'll probably not vote again
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Re: Leaving EU seen from a norwegian

Postby Pete31 » Mon Oct 03, 2016 8:52 am

Paul - TV Techie wrote:
My guess is that your parliament does not have balls to go all the way.


You may well be right ! Certainly did catch many politicians unaware in the UK & no plan was in place to deal with this. A mess.

UK imports 100 billion from the EU, more than it exports (or so they say) - so it is in everyone's interest to keep business moving forwards.

4% of Spains GDP - is by the English - property, spending money whilst living in Spain - this is too much for Spain to lose, so are likely to accept a specific work / movement treaty with the UK - to keep employment and residency options open - otherwise will have an impact on Spain, which they can ill afford.

I think the issue is both with the UK (or the way the Brexit was portrayed in the media), but also the EU. There is an issue with immigration, not just in UK, but Germany too & lots of issues in Hungary refusing Muslims, Slovakia arguing over borders too & they are not alone. A change is needed for all the EU, not just the UK, to better organise this and far more security with new immigrants to minimise risk of terrorism. It is about time the EU listened to their member states and not the other way around.

If the EU does not change policies to ones that are more acceptable to all countries, it is likely that others may follow the UK and then this will lead to the fall of the EU.

I believe the EU will change some major rules, not for the UK, but for all 27 members - then this may appease many of the issues (many....well the borders, as that is what most voted out on) & then of they do this, the UK can wiggle around for a better deal, or convince the public, that they have what 'they asked for' and can now remain a member?

I think Norway will be happy to deal with the UK as 25% of their exports head in that direction...UK & Norway are different animals. Norway GDP 0.4 trillion. UK 2849 trillion. So complex to negotiate the required level of trade and finance, more complex than anything that has gone before it.

There's some daft figure like 25,000 separate potential trade deals, horribly complex and will take years. Better the EU backs down for all & the UK does some kind of U turn....without it being perceived as one.. :D Politicians are good at doing that. Little else...


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Re: Leaving EU seen from a norwegian

Postby freddo » Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:09 am

mondo wrote:
marcliff wrote:
LSpring40 wrote:If you live outside the UK for 6 months you are no longer entitled to free NHS care - I worked in the NHS for over 20 years and one of my areas of work was Reciprocal Healthcare arrangements around the world not just for the small number of countries in the EU so Brexit will not affect this. There are several countries without these arrangements and their citizens need to pay for UK healthcare either privately or via insurance.





One part of the rules changed last year. Expat pensioners who live in Spain are now entitled to use the NHS in UK.
(From NHS England site)
UK state pensioners who live elsewhere in the EEA will now have the same rights to NHS care as people who live in England. This applies to all pensioners who receive a UK state retirement pension and registered for healthcare in Europe with an S1 form.





he bit to note here is the bit that says..UK state pensioners who live elsewhere in the EEA

Soon the UK will not be in the EEA.

Maybe another law that will have to be ripped up.

The UK is leaving the EU not the EEA

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United Kingdom 2 May 1992 15 November 1993 1 January 1994 EU member, includes Gibraltar.
Voted in a 2016 referendum to leave the EU. The future status of UK inclusion in the EEA remains unclear.





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Re: Leaving EU seen from a norwegian

Postby Jillandsteve » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:03 pm

Here we go again, he said, they said, who said, who lied, £350 million a week, hard brexit, soft brexit, healthcare, no healthcare
Can't we just give it a rest and wait to see what happen ?
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Re: Leaving EU seen from a norwegian

Postby linkwater » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:20 pm

Anyone would think the UK didn't know what it was voting for.......
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Re: Leaving EU seen from a norwegian

Postby freddo » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:53 pm

They did not nobody told them the facts just lies
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Re: Leaving EU seen from a norwegian

Postby linkwater » Mon Oct 03, 2016 4:45 pm

A bit like the Unipart advert from years ago "the answers out, now whats the question?"
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Re: Leaving EU seen from a norwegian

Postby freddo » Mon Oct 03, 2016 6:13 pm

Should we tell SID
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Re: Leaving EU seen from a norwegian

Postby maisiesdad » Mon Oct 03, 2016 7:13 pm

Might be an idea to keep your fingers, and anything else supple enough, crossed. Oh and avoid getting depressed by looking at sterling exchange rates and watching the tory conference. Onward and upward.

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