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Re: Smart meter refusal

Postby Rodt » Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:37 pm

Good post Marcliff, we always get the facts from you, well done once again
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Re: Smart meter refusal

Postby Calledali » Fri Aug 04, 2017 6:14 pm

I have arrived 1 week ago to find smart meter installed. Big problem is that the supply levels are too low and it keeps tripping out. The supply needs to be upgraded but I don't know how to do this
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Re: Smart meter refusal

Postby PeteKnight » Fri Aug 04, 2017 6:24 pm

Calledali wrote:I have arrived 1 week ago to find smart meter installed. Big problem is that the supply levels are too low and it keeps tripping out. The supply needs to be upgraded but I don't know how to do this


Find a certified electrician and pay them to test your wiring and certify that it can handle the increased potentia that you're looking for. Take your shiny new electrical certificate down to your electrical supplier's office (probably Iberdrola) and sign a contract for an increased poterntia.

Every unit of electricity you use is miltiplied by your potentia figure, so using the same amount of electricity will cost you more in future; so don't go over the top when choosing your new potentia level. I'm told that Iberdrola have a calculator on their website that allows you to work out what you need based on the electrical items you have in your home.

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Re: Smart meter refusal

Postby Roach » Sat Aug 05, 2017 11:18 am

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camionpilot wrote:A spot of Youtube watching is recommended to show the dangers of these items , the uk is on its 2nd generation meters because of all the problems with the earlier models and all the dangers they can cause , including being very erratic , unreliable , some charging customers hundreds of pounds for 1 days supply ...!!!
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Re: Smart meter refusal

Postby Roach » Sat Aug 05, 2017 11:31 am

jpeg wrote:The Smart Meter in Spain is nothing like the one in UK totally different in function and there is no more radiation than a mobile phone



You really believe that?

The radiation from mobile phones / wifi is dangerous it's just not discussed in the public domain. Most probably due to the amount of money firms would lose if people really understood the dangers. If microwave radiation from a phone can alter DNA and affect young children, imagine all the waves being given off by everyone now having wifi (soon to be 5g which gives off even stronger signals that the 2.4ghz), smart phones, smarts meters etc etc.

It's becoming a big big problem just waiting to come out into the open, such as the dangers of smoking. Smoking was 'good' for you once upon a time and was even endorsed by your local friendly doctor and dentist LOL!. I believe this RF/microwave radiation is the same only on another level. If someone wishes to avoid tobacco smoke it is possible to avoid it. Microwave radiation is different as it passes through walls.

It would be nice to have a 200m distance between the smart meter and where you sleep such as marcliff but not everyone has that luxury.
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Re: Smart meter refusal

Postby PeteKnight » Sat Aug 05, 2017 2:57 pm

Roach wrote:The radiation from mobile phones / wifi is dangerous it's just not discussed in the public domain. Most probably due to the amount of money firms would lose if people really understood the dangers. If microwave radiation from a phone can alter DNA and affect young children, imagine all the waves being given off by everyone now having wifi (soon to be 5g which gives off even stronger signals that the 2.4ghz), smart phones, smarts meters etc etc.

It's becoming a big big problem just waiting to come out into the open, such as the dangers of smoking. Smoking was 'good' for you once upon a time and was even endorsed by your local friendly doctor and dentist LOL!. I believe this RF/microwave radiation is the same only on another level. If someone wishes to avoid tobacco smoke it is possible to avoid it. Microwave radiation is different as it passes through walls.

It would be nice to have a 200m distance between the smart meter and where you sleep such as marcliff but not everyone has that luxury.

Smart meters in Spain use a system known as PRIME, which is a narrow-band power line communication (NB-PLC) technology to transmit usage data from the meter to the control centre. This means that the data is transmitted down the power lines that connect your meter to the grid, not via radio waves or Wi-Fi signals. As a result, there is no more radio frequency to radiation from Spanish smart meters than there was from conventional 'dumb' meters.

I assume that because of your paranoia regarding the way in which radio waves will (further) addle your brain, you don't own a mobile phone, and that your computer is connected via a wired connection to your router - which has had Wi-Fi disabled?

I guess it must be very hot walking down the street in your tin foil hat in this weather?

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Re: Smart meter refusal

Postby jpeg » Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:01 pm

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Re: Smart meter refusal

Postby TerryG » Sun Aug 06, 2017 8:27 am

Don`t confuse people with facts Pete. ;)
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Re: Smart meter refusal

Postby Roach » Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:01 am

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Re: Smart meter refusal

Postby Roach » Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:02 am

PeteKnight wrote:
Roach wrote:The radiation from mobile phones / wifi is dangerous it's just not discussed in the public domain. Most probably due to the amount of money firms would lose if people really understood the dangers. If microwave radiation from a phone can alter DNA and affect young children, imagine all the waves being given off by everyone now having wifi (soon to be 5g which gives off even stronger signals that the 2.4ghz), smart phones, smarts meters etc etc.

It's becoming a big big problem just waiting to come out into the open, such as the dangers of smoking. Smoking was 'good' for you once upon a time and was even endorsed by your local friendly doctor and dentist LOL!. I believe this RF/microwave radiation is the same only on another level. If someone wishes to avoid tobacco smoke it is possible to avoid it. Microwave radiation is different as it passes through walls.

It would be nice to have a 200m distance between the smart meter and where you sleep such as marcliff but not everyone has that luxury.

Smart meters in Spain use a system known as PRIME, which is a narrow-band power line communication (NB-PLC) technology to transmit usage data from the meter to the control centre. This means that the data is transmitted down the power lines that connect your meter to the grid, not via radio waves or Wi-Fi signals. As a result, there is no more radio frequency to radiation from Spanish smart meters than there was from conventional 'dumb' meters.

I assume that because of your paranoia regarding the way in which radio waves will (further) addle your brain, you don't own a mobile phone, and that your computer is connected via a wired connection to your router - which has had Wi-Fi disabled?

I guess it must be very hot walking down the street in your tin foil hat in this weather?

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I am encouraged by your statement and will be looking into this PRIME system.

As for paranoia, everything i have said can be researched if you can be bothered to look. There is no paranoia about it. Sometimes a tin foil hat allows you to think openly and learn something new. You should get one. Maybe then you won't be so condescending and ignorant.
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