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Putting things into perspective

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Re: Putting things into perspective

Postby Jabberwocky » Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:21 pm

How on earth can any right minded person (sage commented) regarding leaving the EU is the right thing to do, especially the UK people now residing in another EU country, it just does not stack up.
And by the way the "referendum" is not legally binding it was just used as an "advisory"
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Re: Putting things into perspective

Postby Richard Black » Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:31 pm

UK leaving the EU is the same a 19 small countries leaving the EU, thats why they are very worried and so they should be.
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Re: Putting things into perspective

Postby Glassfull » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:03 pm

Richard Black wrote:UK leaving the EU is the same a 19 small countries leaving the EU, thats why they are very worried and so they should be.



Easy statement to make, or make up, can you provide evidence?
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Re: Putting things into perspective

Postby Dave c » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:45 pm

Why 19 small country's?.
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Re: Putting things into perspective

Postby Sage » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:12 pm

March 29th....not long now.

We voted to leave....we're leaving.

I actually voted to remain in the referendum of 2016, just like the majority of friends and family. However if there were another vote we would ALL.....and I mean everyone of those remainers....would now vote to leave/ accept the offer on the table from PM May.
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Re: Putting things into perspective

Postby Pete31 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:19 pm

Yes sage I voted remain but I believe in what the people voted to leave but please not a crashout, let’s take the only offer in my mind the one now!

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Re: Putting things into perspective

Postby Paulr » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:43 pm

I voted Remain, so I can barely believe that, now, I'm saying I would rather leave with 'no deal' than accept the Withdrawal Agreement, under which we will continue to pay significant sums of money to the EU whilst no longer having a say in the rule making. If there was still some way we could Remain, I would support it, because the Withdrawal Agreement doesn't deliver the Brexit that those who voted Leave were expecting to get, and yet they continue to blame the EU for their perceived woes, rather than laying the blame where the mistakes really lie: the UK government.
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Re: Putting things into perspective

Postby Glassfull » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:46 pm

We send MPs to parliament as MPs to govern and look after the welfare of the 66 million of us, not as delegates for the 17 million who voted for Brexit just remember that!
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Re: Putting things into perspective

Postby Sage » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:53 pm

Yes we'll remember that principle next time there is a general election and a large proportion of the country vote for the loosing party. Let's hope all that they want is also delivered by Parliament.

I don't think that's very likely......it's called democracy = winner takes all
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Re: Putting things into perspective

Postby Glassfull » Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:13 pm

Sage wrote:March 29th....not long now.

We voted to leave....we're leaving.

I actually voted to remain in the referendum of 2016, just like the majority of friends and family. However if there were another vote we would ALL.....and I mean everyone of those remainers....would now vote to leave/ accept the offer on the table from PM May.



What that Referendum did was to take a snapshot of opinion on one day in June 2016.

Why can’t you accept that, since then, opinions have changed? Prior to that day, opinions had been formed as a result of misaligned backlash to Government policies, false advertising, downright lies and fraudulent campaigning.

Brexit was carried by a combination of the ignorant, easily led, dogged leavers, financial and political speculators and Right wing zealots. A few of those still hold their original opinions but, things change and have done so. Accept it.

If your so sure that Brexit would carry the day once again, let’s put it to the test and, if I’m wrong, it’ll shut us infernal Remainers up. But you know only too well that it’ll fail the test a second time.

All the Leave means Leave protestations reflect, is the desperation to cling to that rare iota in time, when all your planets lined up
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