UK ELECTION

The Cardiff North constituency I live in is marginal flip flopping between Tory and Labour. I will not vote for Labour as under Jeremy Corbyn as his policies would in my opinion would push us back to the dark ages. I know he is supposed to appeal to the younger generation but they have not experienced a left wing socialist party being in government in their lifetime. Lib dems out of the question as they are just looking for us not to leave. I wont vote for the racist party oops sorry Plaid Cymru. I wont vote for the Brexit party as they will will split the Tory vote and let labour win by default. My preference would be to help Boris get his majority and sort out this Brexit mess once and for all.BUT I would rather not vote at all than to vote for the candidate the Tories have chosen to represent the area where I live. So for the first time in 48 years I shall not be voting.

The best thing to do is vote for the Muppet show to be shown again cause that's what all these idiots are in parliament who is trying to run the country.

pin1953 wrote:The Cardiff North constituency I live in is marginal flip flopping between Tory and Labour. I will not vote for Labour as under Jeremy Corbyn as his policies would in my opinion would push us back to the dark ages. I know he is supposed to appeal to the younger generation but they have not experienced a left wing socialist party being in government in their lifetime. Lib dems out of the question as they are just looking for us not to leave. I wont vote for the racist party oops sorry Plaid Cymru. I wont vote for the Brexit party as they will will split the Tory vote and let labour win by default. My preference would be to help Boris get his majority and sort out this Brexit mess once and for all.BUT I would rather not vote at all than to vote for the candidate the Tories have chosen to represent the area where I live. So for the first time in 48 years I shall not be voting.

I can't say 100% agree with you - the Tories aren't the same as they were a few years ago & much of the UK's current issues, knife crime, personal debt levels etc - are not EU issue, but localised ones, which could be argued are under the conservative government.

(Not you) I do find myself surrounded by racially motivated pensioners, screaming immigration (lowest level EU immigration currently 13+ years) to get out of the EU, whilst they reside in Spain & have massively benefitted both financially and in their own retirement under the EU, in an EU country - freedom of movement. No hint of irony. Most immigration and future will be non EU anyway - most are down to war & now the latest 'climate change refugees' - that's where the future is currently heading.

It's a shame that Corbyn is universally not that popular - It looks like both Tory & Conservative spending plans might be a little more than we have - but I do think, there is a little more 'care for the people & enviroment', in the Labour manifesto - I can't trust BJ as he's lied and this 'selling the NHS to the Americans' which he claimed was not in the table - has been proven with the leaked documents, that has been in discussions all along.

USA is about 6% of imports and EU about 50% - so we want to throw the tariff free 50% away, while we negotiate the 6% with the Americans, who will only agree if they can sell their overly expensive drugs and insurance to the NHS - which will give it further problems.

The EU, taken as a whole is the UK's largest trading partner. In 2018, UK exports to the EU were £291 billion (45% of all UK exports). UK imports from the EU were £357 billion (53% of all UK imports).Nov 1, 2019 Wikipedia

So who to vote for? Me, no one as stuffed, 15 years outside of UK - however to the poster above who can't vote for BJ, but also cannot bring himself to vote Corbyn - fair enough - stuck in the middle!

I do wish there was someone we could all believe in a little more and get behind.

We are about to step into a Brexit deal, without actually knowing what future deal it will be - genius strategy from a country that has built its financial strength from leading within the EU, step out, deal or no deal - we don't have one fig of an idea what these trade deals will be and how long (years) they will take. The whole approach to this from the start has been a shambles.

Yes, it is so sad how low the UK populace has become.. many are very happy to have lying toads running the country, so that is what they will get

.. how low can you go..

I often wonder how many people have spoken to Jeremy Corbyn to be able to form such a low opinion of him. I doubt if it’s that many so, where does this negatively originate?

I can only assume it’s from the UK press. The same press which over the years ‘did a job’ on Michael Foot, Neil Kinnock, Ken Livingstone and Diane Abbot. OK, they might have made a gaff or two, Abbot with her maths and Kinnock on the beach at a Party Conference but somehow, that same press seems to be blind to Johnson’s lying, philandering and inability to actually answer questions.

Oh and, as for not liking Corbyn for his policies, that displays an ignorance of how the Labour Party works. Policy is decided at their Annual Conference. So, if Mother Theresa was the Labour Leader, her policies would still be the same

Well put glassful also biased BBC again labour.

Glassfull wrote:I often wonder how many people have spoken to Jeremy Corbyn to be able to form such a low opinion of him. I doubt if it’s that many so, where does this negatively originate?

I can only assume it’s from the UK press. The same press which over the years ‘did a job’ on Michael Foot, Neil Kinnock, Ken Livingstone and Diane Abbot. OK, they might have made a gaff or two, Abbot with her maths and Kinnock on the beach at a Party Conference but somehow, that same press seems to be blind to Johnson’s lying, philandering and inability to actually answer questions.

Oh and, as for not liking Corbyn for his policies, that displays an ignorance of how the Labour Party works. Policy is decided at their Annual Conference. So, if Mother Theresa was the Labour Leader, her policies would still be the same

Many people have spoken to Corbyn and his policies are well known and are reported on in the media. And he decides his own policies, that`s why he`s a major embarrassment to the Labour Party who would sorely like to get rid of him.

Personally I wouldn`t vote for any of them, not that it bothers me because Spain is my home and I have Spanish nationality.

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pin1953 wrote:The Cardiff North constituency I live in is marginal flip flopping between Tory and Labour. I will not vote for Labour as under Jeremy Corbyn as his policies would in my opinion would push us back to the dark ages. I know he is supposed to appeal to the younger generation but they have not experienced a left wing socialist party being in government in their lifetime. Lib dems out of the question as they are just looking for us not to leave. I wont vote for the racist party oops sorry Plaid Cymru. I wont vote for the Brexit party as they will will split the Tory vote and let labour win by default. My preference would be to help Boris get his majority and sort out this Brexit mess once and for all.BUT I would rather not vote at all than to vote for the candidate the Tories have chosen to represent the area where I live. So for the first time in 48 years I shall not be voting.

I can't say 100% agree with you - the Tories aren't the same as they were a few years ago & much of the UK's current issues, knife crime, personal debt levels etc - are not EU issue, but localised ones, which could be argued are under the conservative government.

(Not you) I do find myself surrounded by racially motivated pensioners, screaming immigration (lowest level EU immigration currently 13+ years) to get out of the EU, whilst they reside in Spain & have massively benefitted both financially and in their own retirement under the EU, in an EU country - freedom of movement. No hint of irony. Most immigration and future will be non EU anyway - most are down to war & now the latest 'climate change refugees' - that's where the future is currently heading.

It's a shame that Corbyn is universally not that popular - It looks like both Tory & Conservative spending plans might be a little more than we have - but I do think, there is a little more 'care for the people & enviroment', in the Labour manifesto - I can't trust BJ as he's lied and this 'selling the NHS to the Americans' which he claimed was not in the table - has been proven with the leaked documents, that has been in discussions all along.

USA is about 6% of imports and EU about 50% - so we want to throw the tariff free 50% away, while we negotiate the 6% with the Americans, who will only agree if they can sell their overly expensive drugs and insurance to the NHS - which will give it further problems.

The EU, taken as a whole is the UK's largest trading partner. In 2018, UK exports to the EU were £291 billion (45% of all UK exports). UK imports from the EU were £357 billion (53% of all UK imports).Nov 1, 2019 Wikipedia

So who to vote for? Me, no one as stuffed, 15 years outside of UK - however to the poster above who can't vote for BJ, but also cannot bring himself to vote Corbyn - fair enough - stuck in the middle!

I do wish there was someone we could all believe in a little more and get behind.


We are about to step into a Brexit deal, without actually knowing what future deal it will be - genius strategy from a country that has built its financial strength from leading within the EU, step out, deal or no deal - we don't have one fig of an idea what these trade deals will be and how long (years) they will take. The whole approach to this from the start has been a shambles.

I can`t vote anyway because I`ve lived here for over 25 years but I do feel sorry for anyone who can vote.
But if push come to shove and I could vote, it wouldn`t be Corbyn ... and that`s without ever speaking to him !!

You should vote on policies and manafestos not necessarily the leader