UK ELECTION

Jillandsteve wrote:Paul, I think you’re assuming a lot
Let time tell what’s true or false
It’s too early to make predictions.
They haven’t said state pensions paid overseas will be frozen, don't where you dug that one up from ?.......

Dave c wrote:Derick you sound what your profile looks like

Paul - TV Techie wrote:Democracy is dead - only presentations of half-truths, blatant lies & the awful narrow view propaganda machine social media has turned it to.

53% of the country still voted to for a 2nd referendum at the minimum or to remain. So clearly political voting aside - if you look at the overall numbers, it paints a difficult picture.

The fact that many didn't like Corbyn or more the point Labour tried to please both sides of their supporters remain and leave - but ended up pissing them both off - hence lots of defections in long owned strongholds...

Ultimately Boris, played a Trump - give people an easy message to remember - 'Get Brexit done' - which really means bugger all in reality as a soundbite - but simple, just like 'Make America great again - was it not great to start with?

The country has had a few years of problems, not helped by the conservatives - including cuts to the NHS (now let's see drug prices go up as we negotiate with the USA).

Back to square one - our largest trading partner by a huge margin is the tariff-free EU, which we have now disposed of, yet wish to renegotiate another tariff-free deal with no major concessions. Not going to happen, one by one, concessions will have to be made as the 'tariff free trade' as this will make a substantial difference to the UK economy, both importing and exporting. We've now pissed off the EU & are going to return with cap in hand - we need them more than they need us - 27 vs 1 country we are in the minority! How to not negotiate from a position of strength - business negotiation 101

Problem is much of the voting was people 'hacked off' and much of this was not in the main caused by the EU, many are unrelated UK political and social issues. Now we have these and a tricky path ahead negotiating as literally every country has as 'over a barrel', as no we have no deal in place. Genius negotiating.

Not sure if correct, but UK has stated that the state paid overseas pensions which were index-linked, will now be frozen. If you are on a UK state pension, it seems whilst the cost of living will increase, your UK pension if living overseas in the EU, will not. One of many things, which will affect people. This is the one which may resonate with some here, as there are people surviving solely on their UK pensions - if cost of living goes up 5% p.a won't be too long before some UK pensioners will be needing to head back to the UK again. Hope it is not the case, but....

Jillandsteve wrote:Paul, I think you’re assuming a lot
Let time tell what’s true or false
It’s too early to make predictions
There’s no earthly reason to think medicines will cost more
They haven’t said state pensions paid overseas will be frozen, don't where you dug that one up from ?
Why would anybody go back to the UK because the cost of living rose by 5% and, again, where did that come from ?
No deals in place ? We don’t need deals yet as there’s a transition period until Dec 2020 and, contrary to your comments, there are several ‘carry over’ deals that can come into effect directly after the transition period
Much of our trade (around 42%) as you say, is with the EU, now tell me why should that change? The EU wants to trade with the worlds 5th largest economy, why wouldn’t they, it’s an aspect of trade with the EU that seems to get forgotten
We’re not going to go back to the EU ‘cap in hand’ I don’t know why you say that, we buy more off the EU than they buy from the UK, they certainly want to to nothing to damage that deal do they ?
I fail to understand your negativity here
As John Lennon wisely said, there are no problems, only solutions
Now, come back to this forum in a few years and let’s see how it’s all worked out eh ?