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Humax tv boxes
Re: Humax tv boxes
by Glassfull » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:14 am
Ron Hill wrote:ajkechadwick wrote:Highly recommend the Humax Freesat box with hdd. Told in UK by aerial and satellite installer his preferred box now have one here and one at home in UK. No problems whatsoever.
Unfortunately I can’t get a sat dish on my apartment so now looking at IPTV
Thanks for your help
Is there a communial dish serving your block?
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Re: Humax tv boxes
by Ron Hill » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:12 pm
Glassfull wrote:Ron Hill wrote:ajkechadwick wrote:Highly recommend the Humax Freesat box with hdd. Told in UK by aerial and satellite installer his preferred box now have one here and one at home in UK. No problems whatsoever.
Unfortunately I can’t get a sat dish on my apartment so now looking at IPTV
Thanks for your help
Is there a communial dish serving your block?
Yes Glassfull we have a new community sat TV system installed last summer
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Re: Humax tv boxes
by Ron Hill » Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:00 pm
jpeg wrote:So why not connect to the community link
I’m investigating the possibility
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Re: Humax tv boxes
by Glassfull » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:25 pm
Ron,
You’ll have to ensure that the system points to the Astra group. If it does, the new system might have suplace capacity to allow you a second feed.
You’ll have to ensure that the system points to the Astra group. If it does, the new system might have suplace capacity to allow you a second feed.
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Re: Humax tv boxes
by Paul - TV Techie » Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:14 am
I've mentioned previously - whilst the Humax box is a good quality piece of equipment - there are some quirks you need to be aware of.
On a private satellite system (locally) should be fine. The issue is (same as a Sky box), the box needs to see the EPG frequency at a sufficient level in order to boot up the box in the Freesat mode. A couple of times on community systems, I have seen amplifiers and long cable runs clip some frequencies and trip these boxes up. Comparatively rare, but it has been seen. Also to note, better to buy yourself as not officially supplied or fixed in Spain, so if you buy off someone here, will be at a premium (as they will need to ship from UK) and if it goes wrong, you'll be shipping back to the UK.
Also as mentioned by another poster - the 2nd connection which these boxes need (1 cable for each tuner/twin tuner) that it needs 2 connection cables, if a private installation you will need a spare port on the LNB, or if no port, then possibly an upgraded LNB (and not all perform the same, so need to be careful with product selection, when close to signal edge). OR if on a community this has multi-switches, usually comprise of 8 ports (or multiples of), so if a spare port available, then a cable run - no problem. If no ports on the multi-switch, then we can get into a trickier situation, as often the community does not want to pay for a commercial piece of hardware, so one person can add a single cable feed - so unless more people want connection (or may want later) this can prove reasonably expensive, as better (and fairer) to share the cost of this type of equipment as a little rich to expect a community member, who just wants an additional connection, to pay for a unit which provides 8 - that's the catch of community systems - expansion needs to be factored in, otherwise can prove costly or tricky to add in more ports/connections later - possible of course, but the question will come up 'who will pay'?
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On a private satellite system (locally) should be fine. The issue is (same as a Sky box), the box needs to see the EPG frequency at a sufficient level in order to boot up the box in the Freesat mode. A couple of times on community systems, I have seen amplifiers and long cable runs clip some frequencies and trip these boxes up. Comparatively rare, but it has been seen. Also to note, better to buy yourself as not officially supplied or fixed in Spain, so if you buy off someone here, will be at a premium (as they will need to ship from UK) and if it goes wrong, you'll be shipping back to the UK.
Also as mentioned by another poster - the 2nd connection which these boxes need (1 cable for each tuner/twin tuner) that it needs 2 connection cables, if a private installation you will need a spare port on the LNB, or if no port, then possibly an upgraded LNB (and not all perform the same, so need to be careful with product selection, when close to signal edge). OR if on a community this has multi-switches, usually comprise of 8 ports (or multiples of), so if a spare port available, then a cable run - no problem. If no ports on the multi-switch, then we can get into a trickier situation, as often the community does not want to pay for a commercial piece of hardware, so one person can add a single cable feed - so unless more people want connection (or may want later) this can prove reasonably expensive, as better (and fairer) to share the cost of this type of equipment as a little rich to expect a community member, who just wants an additional connection, to pay for a unit which provides 8 - that's the catch of community systems - expansion needs to be factored in, otherwise can prove costly or tricky to add in more ports/connections later - possible of course, but the question will come up 'who will pay'?
Paul
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Re: Humax tv boxes
by Ron Hill » Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:57 am
Thanks for all this info looks like I’ll opt for IPTV yes you have to pay annually but the content and flexibility seems to be better......thanks again all
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Re: Humax tv boxes
by jpeg » Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:15 pm
No need to pay anything for IPTV if you find the right one and even if you do pay there is no guarantee of a good stream
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Re: Humax tv boxes
by Potjoe » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:03 pm
Hi, we have TV by way of the internet HD need good speed smart tv and no IPTV cost as little as €48 per year. Sorry cannot say how as I may upset Paul!.
If you have a smart tv look for in the apps or on your pad then put in on your tv.
If you have a smart tv look for in the apps or on your pad then put in on your tv.
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Re: Humax tv boxes
by Paul - TV Techie » Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:28 pm
You won't upset me (but nor should you be promoting anything unpaid on the forum), there are lot's of systems & service out there - and as a statement of fact, the cheaper a system is, means it is usually re-shared more, leading to less stability overall and has fewer channels. Hosting costs, so you find companies over the web, offering a bargain - though the majority do not live up to long term expectations and have issues.
Ultimately it is down to expectations - if a secondary or back up service not so important, if main service, more to take into consideration.
I've made this statement many times and it always seems to bear out true - if a company puts double the clients on a server, they can reduce costs, but this does reduce stability by half (in this example), many online companies work on 'high turnover' model, as primarily online and uncontactable, so when it falls over, c'est la vie;-) and you move on (again) with another provider. Depends on how cheap you want to go - due to my work, I've spent more time than most studying & testing this both hardware, apps and many services & not had what I would call a decent level of stability from far too many providers tested.
The more people who share, the more you reduce service - which is why Kodi is often so poor/unstable. So, even in this game, you do get what you pay for. Ultimately about half the people I speak to have problems with their IPTV services, which tells me 2 things, there are a lot of unstable providers out there and locally some of the ISP's are not too hot either.
I've tried the apps & still do (including the one I am testing now on a Samsung TV) - if you believe these are even close to the easiest of use and stability/functionality of a decent set-top box (not android/kodi) which the hardware is designed to do the job properly, apps don't work as well - buggy. The latest one I tried spotted straight away that there was an issue with the catch-up, there's always something. They are usually 'emulators' copying other software.
Like anything, you pay for what you get, the apps I think are generally are best kept for travelling or as a secondary option, but that does depend on your overall level of expectation. Some services offer both options - apps and decent set-top box.
Paul
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Ultimately it is down to expectations - if a secondary or back up service not so important, if main service, more to take into consideration.
I've made this statement many times and it always seems to bear out true - if a company puts double the clients on a server, they can reduce costs, but this does reduce stability by half (in this example), many online companies work on 'high turnover' model, as primarily online and uncontactable, so when it falls over, c'est la vie;-) and you move on (again) with another provider. Depends on how cheap you want to go - due to my work, I've spent more time than most studying & testing this both hardware, apps and many services & not had what I would call a decent level of stability from far too many providers tested.
The more people who share, the more you reduce service - which is why Kodi is often so poor/unstable. So, even in this game, you do get what you pay for. Ultimately about half the people I speak to have problems with their IPTV services, which tells me 2 things, there are a lot of unstable providers out there and locally some of the ISP's are not too hot either.
I've tried the apps & still do (including the one I am testing now on a Samsung TV) - if you believe these are even close to the easiest of use and stability/functionality of a decent set-top box (not android/kodi) which the hardware is designed to do the job properly, apps don't work as well - buggy. The latest one I tried spotted straight away that there was an issue with the catch-up, there's always something. They are usually 'emulators' copying other software.
Like anything, you pay for what you get, the apps I think are generally are best kept for travelling or as a secondary option, but that does depend on your overall level of expectation. Some services offer both options - apps and decent set-top box.
Paul
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