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Does Cannabis / CBD - block Covid - scientific data
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Does Cannabis / CBD - block Covid - scientific data
by Paul - TV Techie » Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:30 am
Seems this ones been swept under the rug for obvious reasons - though legal in Spain for personal consumption and you can buy oil locally.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35007072/
Lots of links to official resource tests - excerpt below.
As a complement to vaccines, small-molecule therapeutic agents are needed to treat or prevent infections by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus-2 (SARS-CoV-2) and its variants, which cause COVID-19.
Affinity selection-mass spectrometry was used for the discovery of botanical ligands to the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein. Cannabinoid acids from hemp (Cannabis sativa) were found to be allosteric as well as orthosteric ligands with micromolar affinity for the spike protein. In follow-up virus neutralization assays, cannabigerolic acid and cannabidiolic acid prevented infection of human epithelial cells by a pseudovirus expressing the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein and prevented entry of live SARS-CoV-2 into cells.
Importantly, cannabigerolic acid and cannabidiolic acid were equally effective against the SARS-CoV-2 alpha variant B.1.1.7 and the beta variant B.1.351. Orally bioavailable and with a long history of safe human use, these cannabinoids, isolated or in hemp extracts, have the potential to prevent as well as treat infection by SARS-CoV-2.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35007072/
Lots of links to official resource tests - excerpt below.
As a complement to vaccines, small-molecule therapeutic agents are needed to treat or prevent infections by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus-2 (SARS-CoV-2) and its variants, which cause COVID-19.
Affinity selection-mass spectrometry was used for the discovery of botanical ligands to the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein. Cannabinoid acids from hemp (Cannabis sativa) were found to be allosteric as well as orthosteric ligands with micromolar affinity for the spike protein. In follow-up virus neutralization assays, cannabigerolic acid and cannabidiolic acid prevented infection of human epithelial cells by a pseudovirus expressing the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein and prevented entry of live SARS-CoV-2 into cells.
Importantly, cannabigerolic acid and cannabidiolic acid were equally effective against the SARS-CoV-2 alpha variant B.1.1.7 and the beta variant B.1.351. Orally bioavailable and with a long history of safe human use, these cannabinoids, isolated or in hemp extracts, have the potential to prevent as well as treat infection by SARS-CoV-2.
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Re: Does Cannabis / CBD - block Covid - scientific data
by Glassfull » Mon Jul 18, 2022 10:34 am
Paul - TV Techie wrote:Seems this ones been swept under the rug for obvious reasons - though legal in Spain for personal consumption and you can buy oil locally.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35007072/
Lots of links to official resource tests - excerpt below.
As a complement to vaccines, small-molecule therapeutic agents are needed to treat or prevent infections by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus-2 (SARS-CoV-2) and its variants, which cause COVID-19.
Affinity selection-mass spectrometry was used for the discovery of botanical ligands to the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein. Cannabinoid acids from hemp (Cannabis sativa) were found to be allosteric as well as orthosteric ligands with micromolar affinity for the spike protein. In follow-up virus neutralization assays, cannabigerolic acid and cannabidiolic acid prevented infection of human epithelial cells by a pseudovirus expressing the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein and prevented entry of live SARS-CoV-2 into cells.
Importantly, cannabigerolic acid and cannabidiolic acid were equally effective against the SARS-CoV-2 alpha variant B.1.1.7 and the beta variant B.1.351. Orally bioavailable and with a long history of safe human use, these cannabinoids, isolated or in hemp extracts, have the potential to prevent as well as treat infection by SARS-CoV-2.
Has the “potential to prevent” is NOT, prevents
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Re: Does Cannabis / CBD - block Covid - scientific data
by Paul - TV Techie » Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:04 am
You should read the rest of it.
That was one quote out of a number of reports. All of which found that it did something. Dig deeper.
Also, anything that helps to prevent Covid and is known to be harmless, no harm in informing people. I am not suggesting as an alternative to a vaccine - more as an alternative supplement - a discussion point.
Scientists choose their words carefully, no absolutes, they said the same with Cancer and Cannabis, which now certain strains have found to help cancer patients (of certain cancers) - again no substitute for main existing therapy, but has shown to help.
If you read some of the studies on the links, you will see, that Cannabis does have a positive effect - how much, is the question?
That was one quote out of a number of reports. All of which found that it did something. Dig deeper.
Also, anything that helps to prevent Covid and is known to be harmless, no harm in informing people. I am not suggesting as an alternative to a vaccine - more as an alternative supplement - a discussion point.
Scientists choose their words carefully, no absolutes, they said the same with Cancer and Cannabis, which now certain strains have found to help cancer patients (of certain cancers) - again no substitute for main existing therapy, but has shown to help.
If you read some of the studies on the links, you will see, that Cannabis does have a positive effect - how much, is the question?
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Re: Does Cannabis / CBD - block Covid - scientific data
by Gasgit » Mon Jul 18, 2022 4:40 pm
I’ve been on cbd oil for a year for pain did no good whatsoever, but a strange coincidence after 4-5 months I lost a lot of excess fluid on my shins and ankles which I’d had for many years ?plus my arthritic knuckles are much better, but my bad hip is still bad
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Re: Does Cannabis / CBD - block Covid - scientific data
by Paul - TV Techie » Mon Jul 18, 2022 6:18 pm
Gasgit wrote:I’ve been on cbd oil for a year for pain did no good whatsoever, but a strange coincidence after 4-5 months I lost a lot of excess fluid on my shins and ankles which I’d had for many years ?plus my arthritic knuckles are much better, but my bad hip is still bad
I don`t think Cannabis is a cure it all - but certainly helps in some instances. Seen it help a few people with bad backs, joint issues & stomach type pain issue - but with severe pain not such immediate effect? It may being other benefits as is anti-inflammatory.
Also it does depend on dosage - and much of the oil sold is ok but low concentration, you can get higher % or take more - but ends up being expensive. Unless of course you grow your own medicine. You can even buy CBD only seeds. Legal.
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Re: Does Cannabis / CBD - block Covid - scientific data
by Paul - TV Techie » Tue Oct 04, 2022 4:44 pm
I had a medical issue that involved painful stomach cramps. I found cannabis made a big difference and kept me away from the strong and addictive pharmaceutical painkillers.
When in a hospital bed, in a moment of worry, I confessed to the specialist I had been using cannabis to help pain management and was worried it may have other negative effects or not mix with other prescription drugs being given. The answer from the top 3 specialists in the Valencian community (she asked her associates too) - ´if it helps, use it´- no effect with other medication.
Without actually stating it, if felt they were telling me to take cannabis over prescribed painkillers, but legally they have to be careful with such statements. I was also told that many cancer patients use Cannabis/CBD as helps with nausea caused by chemotherapy.
On the subject of Covid and Cannabis - I have had both! So CBD will not stop you from getting Covid - did I get a lesser Covid infection because of it? Who knows?
When in a hospital bed, in a moment of worry, I confessed to the specialist I had been using cannabis to help pain management and was worried it may have other negative effects or not mix with other prescription drugs being given. The answer from the top 3 specialists in the Valencian community (she asked her associates too) - ´if it helps, use it´- no effect with other medication.
Without actually stating it, if felt they were telling me to take cannabis over prescribed painkillers, but legally they have to be careful with such statements. I was also told that many cancer patients use Cannabis/CBD as helps with nausea caused by chemotherapy.
On the subject of Covid and Cannabis - I have had both! So CBD will not stop you from getting Covid - did I get a lesser Covid infection because of it? Who knows?
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Re: Does Cannabis / CBD - block Covid - scientific data
by Adey » Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:18 pm
I have a Spanish neighbour who suffers from rheumatoid arthritis, for her pain treatment she swears by her own cannabis rubbing mixture, she gave me a bottle of it once for my painful shoulder, have to say it worked very well.
She grows her own cannabis to make the mixture, she takes the leaves and the flower heads, stuffs them tightly into a screw top wine bottle, then fills the bottle with rubbing alcohol from the chemist, leaves it for 2 to 4 weeks then it’s ready to use.
I apply it with a bit of old cotton cloth, be aware it could possibly stain if you got it on your clothing, also don’t use it for a week before flying, it would probably upset the sniffer dogs
This link gives an outline of the Spanish cannabis laws, with regards growing your own.
https://greentours.com/spain-laws/#:~:t ... bis%20club.
She grows her own cannabis to make the mixture, she takes the leaves and the flower heads, stuffs them tightly into a screw top wine bottle, then fills the bottle with rubbing alcohol from the chemist, leaves it for 2 to 4 weeks then it’s ready to use.
I apply it with a bit of old cotton cloth, be aware it could possibly stain if you got it on your clothing, also don’t use it for a week before flying, it would probably upset the sniffer dogs
This link gives an outline of the Spanish cannabis laws, with regards growing your own.
https://greentours.com/spain-laws/#:~:t ... bis%20club.
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Re: Does Cannabis / CBD - block Covid - scientific data
by Paul - TV Techie » Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:56 pm
You can do everything start to finish yourself.
If you are capable of growing a plant and watering it, to make oil - the rest is a youtube video away and if is of benefit to you, could save you fortunes, as CBD oil not cheap.
I tried this as an experiment a few years ago, you need a plant, a basic rice cooker, a sieve, something to hold 20 litres of alcohol and about 10-12 hours of your time.
CBD you buy can be 2%, 5% or more - but gets expensive. If you make own oil, it's 100% and you can blend it down to whatever % you want.
If you are capable of growing a plant and watering it, to make oil - the rest is a youtube video away and if is of benefit to you, could save you fortunes, as CBD oil not cheap.
I tried this as an experiment a few years ago, you need a plant, a basic rice cooker, a sieve, something to hold 20 litres of alcohol and about 10-12 hours of your time.
CBD you buy can be 2%, 5% or more - but gets expensive. If you make own oil, it's 100% and you can blend it down to whatever % you want.
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Re: Does Cannabis / CBD - block Covid - scientific data
by andywyatt » Tue Oct 04, 2022 8:29 pm
when ill anything is worth a try, good luck.
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