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Resident driving UK car temporarily
Re: Resident driving UK car temporarily
by Paul M » Wed May 18, 2022 10:02 pm
Paul 58. ‘ It is up the the legally registered owner to ensure that the car is fully legal, not the driver. If stopped by traffico and found to be illegal the UK car may be seized and removed to a compound but the Spanish driver will suffer no prosecution.’
This absolutely cannot be correct!! The DRIVER of any vehicle is responsible for ensuring it is fully legal and compliant before getting behind the wheel. It’s the driver who needs to confirm that the vehicle is properly insured, MOT’d, has legal tyres etc; etc; If you are driving a rental car, a company car etc; with a bald tyre, YOU are responsible and will face prosecution for the offence!
This absolutely cannot be correct!! The DRIVER of any vehicle is responsible for ensuring it is fully legal and compliant before getting behind the wheel. It’s the driver who needs to confirm that the vehicle is properly insured, MOT’d, has legal tyres etc; etc; If you are driving a rental car, a company car etc; with a bald tyre, YOU are responsible and will face prosecution for the offence!
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Re: Resident driving UK car temporarily
by Paul58 » Wed May 18, 2022 10:46 pm
Paul M wrote:Paul 58. ‘ It is up the the legally registered owner to ensure that the car is fully legal, not the driver. If stopped by traffico and found to be illegal the UK car may be seized and removed to a compound but the Spanish driver will suffer no prosecution.’
This absolutely cannot be correct!! The DRIVER of any vehicle is responsible for ensuring it is fully legal and compliant before getting behind the wheel. It’s the driver who needs to confirm that the vehicle is properly insured, MOT’d, has legal tyres etc; etc; If you are driving a rental car, a company car etc; with a bald tyre, YOU are responsible and will face prosecution for the offence!
Sorry Paul but did you read the quoted info' from the volunteer traffico police? This is Spain and the vehicle holds the fines, taxes, misdeanours etc. This is not the UK where the driver is responsible for the legality of the vehicle.
Having said that..."This absolutely cannot be correct!! The DRIVER of any vehicle is responsible for ensuring it is fully legal and compliant before getting behind the wheel etc...." If you can point us to a Spanish website that agrees with you and applies to Spanish residents, please do. Most renters are non resident, UK licence holders. Even then I'm unsure whether they would be prosecuted in Spain.
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Re: Resident driving UK car temporarily
by Paul M » Wed May 18, 2022 11:02 pm
Well firstly, no I didn’t read the information you attached. Nevertheless, I’m truly shocked if that is the case. I have no ‘legal’ knowledge of Spanish traffic laws, I’m simply assuming that the onus to ensure the vehicle’s legality would be on the driver, regardless of the country you are driving in.
Given that you can be fined for having an arm out of the car window here in Spain, I find it astonishing that police wouldn’t prosecute a Spanish driver for driving an illegal vehicle.
You live and learn every day.
Given that you can be fined for having an arm out of the car window here in Spain, I find it astonishing that police wouldn’t prosecute a Spanish driver for driving an illegal vehicle.
You live and learn every day.
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Re: Resident driving UK car temporarily
by Bee » Sat May 21, 2022 2:19 pm
I can only answer for Ireland (and I presume most of the EU)and the answer is a definite no to bringing your Spanish registered vehicle which you have in Spain as a non-resident back to Ireland and keeping it in Ireland until you next want to return to Spain for your next holiday. The law is 30days to clear the foreign plated car in Ireland or return it to Spain or run the risk of it being impounded. The exceptions are students or if the car is part of your job or it is a hire car being repatriated.
The difference with Ireland and the UK to Spain is the person who holds the insurance doesn't have to be the same person as the registered owner of the vehicle.
The only way I can see you squaring the circle Paul is to register the car in a UK residents name. You are then legally able to keep it in Spain and do what you propose doing as long as its MOT is in date.
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The difference with Ireland and the UK to Spain is the person who holds the insurance doesn't have to be the same person as the registered owner of the vehicle.
The only way I can see you squaring the circle Paul is to register the car in a UK residents name. You are then legally able to keep it in Spain and do what you propose doing as long as its MOT is in date.
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Re: Resident driving UK car temporarily
by Darro » Sat May 21, 2022 3:38 pm
As well intended as it is I do wish people would desist from holding N332 as the perveyors of indisputably accurate information.
They have been wrong on numerous occasions and are wrong when they say
"If someone comes on holiday to Spain with his vehicle, you can drive it and you don't need him to go with you"
That might apply to a Spanish car which is insured for any driver but most certainly not for a UK car which will be insured only for the driver and other person(s) specifically named on the policy.
They have been wrong on numerous occasions and are wrong when they say
"If someone comes on holiday to Spain with his vehicle, you can drive it and you don't need him to go with you"
That might apply to a Spanish car which is insured for any driver but most certainly not for a UK car which will be insured only for the driver and other person(s) specifically named on the policy.
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Re: Resident driving UK car temporarily
by Darro » Sat May 21, 2022 3:43 pm
Paul Uden wrote:Mine is through Aviva and totally above board. You're scaremongering unnecessarily again. All anyone has to do is phone them up and they will tell them what they can, or cannot, do.
Excellent advice which I would urge others to follow as it neatly sums up everything I'm saying.
No porkies, omissions, or 'bending' of the facts allowed though!
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Re: Resident driving UK car temporarily
by Paul M » Sat May 21, 2022 4:58 pm
Darro wrote:As well intended as it is I do wish people would desist from holding N332 as the perveyors of indisputably accurate information.
They have been wrong on numerous occasions and are wrong when they say
"If someone comes on holiday to Spain with his vehicle, you can drive it and you don't need him to go with you"
That might apply to a Spanish car which is insured for any driver but most certainly not for a UK car which will be insured only for the driver and other person(s) specifically named on the policy.
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Re: Resident driving UK car temporarily
by Paul58 » Sun May 22, 2022 8:06 am
Darro wrote:As well intended as it is I do wish people would desist from holding N332 as the perveyors of indisputably accurate information.
They have been wrong on numerous occasions and are wrong when they say
"If someone comes on holiday to Spain with his vehicle, you can drive it and you don't need him to go with you"
That might apply to a Spanish car which is insured for any driver but most certainly not for a UK car which will be insured only for the driver and other person(s) specifically named on the policy.
Do you think that the information supplied by the N332 is incorrect?
Perhaps you could supply a link showing indisputably accurate information to the contrary.
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Re: Resident driving UK car temporarily
by jpeg » Sun May 22, 2022 8:36 am
"That might apply to a Spanish car which is insured for any driver but most certainly not for a UK car which will be insured only for the driver and other person(s) specifically named on the policy."
There are many UK insurance companies that issue policies that stipulate "any driver" with a requirement for over a certain age also it is not a requirement to be the owner of the vehicle to insure a vehicle as long as your are down as the registered keeper .
There are many UK insurance companies that issue policies that stipulate "any driver" with a requirement for over a certain age also it is not a requirement to be the owner of the vehicle to insure a vehicle as long as your are down as the registered keeper .
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