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where to buy advice needed?
where to buy advice needed?
by Siennakyra » Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:24 pm
I would like to buy holiday home in Spain i love la Marquesa, but my husband wants more authentic spanish properties. Where should we look near Alicante airport that is authentic and a safe area to be, I have an 14 year old that needs life too, advise needed as I want to also retire in Spain. holiday home first.
Thanks Karen.
Thanks Karen.
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Re: where to buy advice needed?
by A.N.Other » Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:18 am
Define 'authentic'?
If it's some dewey eyed but nebulous dream born of years of living cheek to jowel on boring housing estates then such dreams can very quickly turn to nightmare when the realities set in.
Careful what you (he) wishes for!
If it's some dewey eyed but nebulous dream born of years of living cheek to jowel on boring housing estates then such dreams can very quickly turn to nightmare when the realities set in.
Careful what you (he) wishes for!
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Re: where to buy advice needed?
by Siennakyra » Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:24 am
By Authentic I believe something with a more spanish feel, I am interested as to Why you are saying be careful to what he wishes for do elaborate as we need advice.
We looked at property in Rojales Hills and I liked it there too, is the area safe? I have seen a lot more properties come available in this area of late.
Thanks.
We looked at property in Rojales Hills and I liked it there too, is the area safe? I have seen a lot more properties come available in this area of late.
Thanks.
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Re: where to buy advice needed?
by Murt » Sat Oct 19, 2019 1:22 pm
The main problem I'd see with the Rojales Hills is the hills. Fine if you're in a car, but what about when you're not. Walking anywhere in the heat is hard going. Walking home afterwards is even harder.
As for real authentic properties. Might suit you, but being stuck out in the country in the arse end of nowhere doesn't appeal to me at all.
I've found taxis to be irregular and to charge extortionate prices, when you can get them. Massive cartel operating. While you may be prepared to drive yourself wherever you're going and back, what about your son? Spanish nightlife for his age and older doesn't start until about 2.00 am and finishes at 5 - 6. Do you fancy getting up at that time to give him a lift home, after already dropping him off in the first place.
There's an old saying "The day you buy is the day you sell." While a Spanish country residence may seem appealing to you looking at it from abroad, what happens if you buy and don't like it. It will be much much harder to shift a place away from the center than it will somewhere close to it. You will be depending on finding a seller who wants the same type of place as you are trying to sell. You might have to wait a long time to find such a person, and maybe even drastically reduce your asking price, in order to secure a sale.
And if you do decide to move, don't forget the 10% government Stamp Duty, plus another 3 - 4% purchasing expenses and when you go to sell, your new Estate Agent will look to remove another 5-6% from you for his commission, plus the other selling expenses.
As for safety, from what I've seen the area is a whole lot safer than living in the UK or in Ireland. Less "Petty Crime" Much higher level of policing and the police hands don't seem to be tied to the same extent when they see a problem.
(Actually hate the word "Petty Crime". It's anything but Petty when you're the victim)
Sorry if that appears to be more of a rant than anything else, but i hope there was something useful in it for you
As for real authentic properties. Might suit you, but being stuck out in the country in the arse end of nowhere doesn't appeal to me at all.
I've found taxis to be irregular and to charge extortionate prices, when you can get them. Massive cartel operating. While you may be prepared to drive yourself wherever you're going and back, what about your son? Spanish nightlife for his age and older doesn't start until about 2.00 am and finishes at 5 - 6. Do you fancy getting up at that time to give him a lift home, after already dropping him off in the first place.
There's an old saying "The day you buy is the day you sell." While a Spanish country residence may seem appealing to you looking at it from abroad, what happens if you buy and don't like it. It will be much much harder to shift a place away from the center than it will somewhere close to it. You will be depending on finding a seller who wants the same type of place as you are trying to sell. You might have to wait a long time to find such a person, and maybe even drastically reduce your asking price, in order to secure a sale.
And if you do decide to move, don't forget the 10% government Stamp Duty, plus another 3 - 4% purchasing expenses and when you go to sell, your new Estate Agent will look to remove another 5-6% from you for his commission, plus the other selling expenses.
As for safety, from what I've seen the area is a whole lot safer than living in the UK or in Ireland. Less "Petty Crime" Much higher level of policing and the police hands don't seem to be tied to the same extent when they see a problem.
(Actually hate the word "Petty Crime". It's anything but Petty when you're the victim)
Sorry if that appears to be more of a rant than anything else, but i hope there was something useful in it for you
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Re: where to buy advice needed?
by PGA » Sat Oct 19, 2019 1:32 pm
I think Murt's advice is spot on.
And with that all in mind, I would suggest renting for 12 months before committing. Costs of acquisition and disposal are high in Spain, as Murt has said. The market is also very slow moving in turnover so you could have an expensive white elephant on your hands if you decide where you buy is not right for you.
I can see some appeal in "proper" Spanish life in a rural village where you rarely hear foreign tongue spoken. However, I can also see how after a while that might wear thin and unless you are fluent in Spanish, the daily frustrations would soon mount. That said, you probably would become fluent far quicker than being immersed in tourist towns.
As I say, I can see some appeal and don't particularly enjoy being in an Irish pub in a Spanish town. That said, when its a good football match on or such like, its nice to have some "home from home". When I want Spanish, I can drive to a Spanish bar in Rojales or Benijofar and dip in/dip out as I wish. As has been said, most places are a drive away anyway (I often cycle so I can have a beer) so you can choose whether you want Spanish, English, Scandi, Dutch or whatever floats your boat.
I don't prescribe to the England in Spain model and when in Spain tend to eat largely Spanish food (never touched any of the specialty British imports certainly), I drink Spanish beers and wines, watch Spanish TV, listen to Spanish radio and try to immerse myself in the culture wherever possible. However, its sometimes nice to have a good chat with another Brit when down in the bar or be able to have an English speaker able to help me in the ferreteria when trying to describe some peculiar tool/fixing that I need. I should imagine life in a rural outpost wouldn't be as simple as that and you'd have google translate on constantly.
In other words, I am of the view that although these towns may seem a bit "Brits abroad", you can personally make your life here as Spanish/English/AN Other as you wish within reason.
And with that all in mind, I would suggest renting for 12 months before committing. Costs of acquisition and disposal are high in Spain, as Murt has said. The market is also very slow moving in turnover so you could have an expensive white elephant on your hands if you decide where you buy is not right for you.
I can see some appeal in "proper" Spanish life in a rural village where you rarely hear foreign tongue spoken. However, I can also see how after a while that might wear thin and unless you are fluent in Spanish, the daily frustrations would soon mount. That said, you probably would become fluent far quicker than being immersed in tourist towns.
As I say, I can see some appeal and don't particularly enjoy being in an Irish pub in a Spanish town. That said, when its a good football match on or such like, its nice to have some "home from home". When I want Spanish, I can drive to a Spanish bar in Rojales or Benijofar and dip in/dip out as I wish. As has been said, most places are a drive away anyway (I often cycle so I can have a beer) so you can choose whether you want Spanish, English, Scandi, Dutch or whatever floats your boat.
I don't prescribe to the England in Spain model and when in Spain tend to eat largely Spanish food (never touched any of the specialty British imports certainly), I drink Spanish beers and wines, watch Spanish TV, listen to Spanish radio and try to immerse myself in the culture wherever possible. However, its sometimes nice to have a good chat with another Brit when down in the bar or be able to have an English speaker able to help me in the ferreteria when trying to describe some peculiar tool/fixing that I need. I should imagine life in a rural outpost wouldn't be as simple as that and you'd have google translate on constantly.
In other words, I am of the view that although these towns may seem a bit "Brits abroad", you can personally make your life here as Spanish/English/AN Other as you wish within reason.
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Re: where to buy advice needed?
by marcliff » Sat Oct 19, 2019 2:15 pm
Rent first. Instead of spending lots on a holiday home which might not suit you in the future, you can rent in different areas and see what they are like.
I do like Quesada as it can be nice and peaceful but with plenty going on not far away. Others like places such as Guardamar because it's close to the beach but becomes a bit of a ghost town in winter. Same as Torrevieja and most people actually mean Orihuela Costa when they say that.
Gran Alacant, Santa Pola, Rojales, Quesada, Elche, Alicante, outskirts of Valencia and so on.
If you spent a couple of weeks in each of those places you'd be able to see what suits you before buying a permanent place and no imputed tax, council tax, utility standing orders, house insurance and so on to pay out.
We had a look at what we thought would be an ideal place out in the country between Guardamar and Elche. Lovely rural houses but not one facility like a bar or cafe anywhere around. Just 20 properties but a drive of 5 miles just to get a pint of milk.
And take note of the advice on selling one place and buying another as the fees can make a big hole in your budget.
I do like Quesada as it can be nice and peaceful but with plenty going on not far away. Others like places such as Guardamar because it's close to the beach but becomes a bit of a ghost town in winter. Same as Torrevieja and most people actually mean Orihuela Costa when they say that.
Gran Alacant, Santa Pola, Rojales, Quesada, Elche, Alicante, outskirts of Valencia and so on.
If you spent a couple of weeks in each of those places you'd be able to see what suits you before buying a permanent place and no imputed tax, council tax, utility standing orders, house insurance and so on to pay out.
We had a look at what we thought would be an ideal place out in the country between Guardamar and Elche. Lovely rural houses but not one facility like a bar or cafe anywhere around. Just 20 properties but a drive of 5 miles just to get a pint of milk.
And take note of the advice on selling one place and buying another as the fees can make a big hole in your budget.
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Re: where to buy advice needed?
by Camdenlady » Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:01 am
We have had a place in Rojales Hills for the past year and we love it. Very friendly neighbours, in our small community they're mostly Brits. Some nice bars very nearby and a lovely little Spanish supermarket. Only a 25 min walk into the high street at Quesada - downhill there but more uphill on the way back! Yes it is hilly but providing you have no mobility issues, we find it helps to keep us fit! Lots of people seem to have electric bicycles too which help going uphill.
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Re: where to buy advice needed?
by Siennakyra » Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:36 pm
Thanks all i love the comments and advice i agree we keep visiting and renting. i like Rojales Hills and i am young so not got any mobility issues. do any of you know whom rents short term in this area? we last stayed in El Raso and the time before that in La Marquesa and before that in Quaredama we are trying all locations. I agree need to get it right I am a business woman and this is my dream hence my dialog here.Thank you all for your input i really appreciate it.
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Re: where to buy advice needed?
by DTR » Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:34 pm
Rojales Hills is great and it's a hill not mountains as some portray! The problem is going to be your 14 year old son. It's such the wrong time to move. I've seen it many times over the years and have my own experiences. Wait a few years more and let you son decide if it's for him or not.
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