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The Un-Magnificent 7
The Un-Magnificent 7
by dr.doolittle » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:42 pm
the Labour M.P.s that have resigned, whats your view. ?
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Re: The Un-Magnificent 7
by jpeg » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:56 pm
Should be made to stand for re-election they are no longer representing the party that they were elected as
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Re: The Un-Magnificent 7
by richardlionheart » Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:07 pm
They will stand for reelection at the next General election. Cant be having by elections every time somone resigns the whip, it would be chaos. On that basis the entire Blair government, who were in fact Tories in Labour clothes, betrayed the entire Labour electorate by pretending to support political views they in fact held in contempt, whilst promoting the opposite views. On the other hand, any MP that votes remain or brexit when thier constituency voted the opposte way should resign, as they are failign to obey the will of the people. IMHO, MP's are the servants of the people and paid by the taxpayer. They need to do as they are told by the voters, they arent there for their benefit, but for ours.
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Re: The Un-Magnificent 7
by Big Wheeler » Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:27 pm
I'm a working class lad and a natural labour voter but who do I vote for now? My local MP is a Corbyn aide in one of the safest Labour seats in the country who voted against the referendum result.Any ballot paper should have a "None of the above" box to tick.
I wonder how many of our MPs were inconvenienced by the last few years of "austerity" that we were assured by David "Sod it.I'm off"Cameron that "We are all in it together".
I wonder how many of our MPs were inconvenienced by the last few years of "austerity" that we were assured by David "Sod it.I'm off"Cameron that "We are all in it together".
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Re: The Un-Magnificent 7
by Ginger » Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:20 pm
I agree with Joel, a by election should be held as people vote fora parties manifesto and these MPs no longer represent that party.
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Re: The Un-Magnificent 7
by richardlionheart » Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:58 pm
Big Wheeler wrote:I'm a working class lad and a natural labour voter but who do I vote for now? My local MP is a Corbyn aide in one of the safest Labour seats in the country who voted against the referendum result.Any ballot paper should have a "None of the above" box to tick.
You have had no one to vote for since the day Neil Kinnock fell over on Brighton Beach. Blair turned his back on the english working class and got elected by turning the Labour Party into a copy of the Tories. Blair carried on Thatchers policies lock stock and barrel, and he lied for 13 years to Labour voters about his true intent, who continued to vote for him like Sheeple. I voted for Bair first time, within 2 years i had seen thru him. It took 13 years for enough labour voters to click on to get rid of him.
Instead of putting the interests of the english workign class first, Blair threw open the flood gates and gave 3 million jobs away to immigration. His actions undermined the working conditions of the working class, undermining 150 years of work by the Trades Unions. And the stupid Labour voters carried on voting for him. "I vote Labour 'cos mi' da' voted labour as did 'is da' before him" - the dimwitted. blind, idiotic voting for a party that was stabbing you in the back all the time. I would vote Labour, if it was the Labour party of George Orwell and Kier Hardy, but that party is long gone. Blair was a Tory EU Stooge and Corbyn is a Stalinist boot licker. And Momentum is nothing but McDonnel Brownshirts, Its a fascist, antisemitic party.
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Re: The Un-Magnificent 7
by Big Wheeler » Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:56 pm
richardlionheart.It seems you and I are kindred spirits.A town near me is the one on tv setting fire to an image of Thatcher when she died.We'd like to dig her up again just to make sure.We are still waiting for Blair!
Have you read about the Kalergi Plan and the Charlemagne Prize.Check out some of the winners over the last 20 years.
I think we had better not start a political thread.Legions of Blairites and Thatcherites(she won the war and battered the unions,you know)will assail us from all sides.
Puts tin hat on and ducks.
Have you read about the Kalergi Plan and the Charlemagne Prize.Check out some of the winners over the last 20 years.
I think we had better not start a political thread.Legions of Blairites and Thatcherites(she won the war and battered the unions,you know)will assail us from all sides.
Puts tin hat on and ducks.
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Re: The Un-Magnificent 7
by PeteKnight » Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:05 am
I have to say that I thought these 7 MPs made a good case for what they've chosen to do.
I'm traditionally more Conservative than Labour, but Theresa May is a waste of space, Boris is an idiot and Rees-Mogg is about 100 years behind the times.
I could never bring myself to vote for Corbyn, and there aren't really any up an coming superstars waiting in the wings in either party, so as far as I'm concerned British politics is totally stuffed.
What the country really needs is a government that's capable of acting as the Board of Directors of UK PlC, and steering the country to success. Having career politicians in that role isn't the way forward, and having a system where a government minister can be in charge of Education one week then Health the next is just ridiculous. We need experts, who are paid a proper salary, to run these essential services, or politicians need to leave the current civil servants to get on with the job without meddling and trying to make their mark for the short period that they are 'in charge'.
The UK might have been the birthplace of modern democracy, but I'm afraid that the farcical carryings-on in parliament ins't what's needed in the 21st century.
I don't know if Proportional Representation would be a way to break down some of the party-political stupidity that we see at they moment, but as far as I'm concerned the more independent MP that sit in the commons the better. Hopefully some Tory MPs will have the bottle to these 7 rebels.
By the way, that's my political rant over and I won't be commenting any further on this thread.
Pete.
I'm traditionally more Conservative than Labour, but Theresa May is a waste of space, Boris is an idiot and Rees-Mogg is about 100 years behind the times.
I could never bring myself to vote for Corbyn, and there aren't really any up an coming superstars waiting in the wings in either party, so as far as I'm concerned British politics is totally stuffed.
What the country really needs is a government that's capable of acting as the Board of Directors of UK PlC, and steering the country to success. Having career politicians in that role isn't the way forward, and having a system where a government minister can be in charge of Education one week then Health the next is just ridiculous. We need experts, who are paid a proper salary, to run these essential services, or politicians need to leave the current civil servants to get on with the job without meddling and trying to make their mark for the short period that they are 'in charge'.
The UK might have been the birthplace of modern democracy, but I'm afraid that the farcical carryings-on in parliament ins't what's needed in the 21st century.
I don't know if Proportional Representation would be a way to break down some of the party-political stupidity that we see at they moment, but as far as I'm concerned the more independent MP that sit in the commons the better. Hopefully some Tory MPs will have the bottle to these 7 rebels.
By the way, that's my political rant over and I won't be commenting any further on this thread.
Pete.
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Re: The Un-Magnificent 7
by TonTri » Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:38 am
Pete, I wholeheartedly agree with you that the way forward is a Board of Directors.
Democracy has no place in modern politics. We see it in the UK, highlighted by Brexit, in the USA with the Republican/Democrats split and most European parliaments consisting of coalition governments. Western countries are divided almost 50-50 on anything political so you cannot get a true democratic majority. They need to do away with politicians altogether and just vote for individual experts to run the country.
Democracy has no place in modern politics. We see it in the UK, highlighted by Brexit, in the USA with the Republican/Democrats split and most European parliaments consisting of coalition governments. Western countries are divided almost 50-50 on anything political so you cannot get a true democratic majority. They need to do away with politicians altogether and just vote for individual experts to run the country.
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Re: The Un-Magnificent 7
by mondo » Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:45 am
What has happened to the Labour party?.. now they have readmitted Derek Hatton?..
It´s a crazy world..
It´s a crazy world..
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