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Re: Compulsory vaccination

Postby Redwoodsman » Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:55 pm

Vaccine Basics | Smallpox | CDC

US Centers for Disease Control & Prevention
(yes - I would spell it as Centres but they don't)

Historically, the vaccine has been effective in preventing smallpox infection in 95% of those vaccinated. In addition, the vaccine was proven to prevent or substantially lessen infection when given within a few days after a person was exposed to the variola virus.
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Re: Compulsory vaccination

Postby Jonnno » Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:25 pm

I would like to ask how many of these "say no to vaccine" posters were required to have a vaccine as babies/children.
Maybe, if they hadn't, they wouldn't be around today to object to current vaccine pressures.
Or are they in the same "club" who erroneously fought against MMR vaccines in the 1990s.
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Re: Compulsory vaccination

Postby Jillandsteve » Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:18 pm

Glassful, read what redwoodsman posted, the CDC findings on the smallpox vaccines
Nothing is 100%, even you
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Re: Compulsory vaccination

Postby Glassfull » Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:23 pm

Jillandsteve wrote:Glassful, read what redwoodsman posted, the CDC findings on the smallpox vaccines
Nothing is 100%, even you



Last case reported was in 1949. Unless you’ve a vial in you back pocket, I think we can safely say, it has been eradicated.

Whilst here talking of Smallpox on the Compulsory Vaccination page. Smallpox vaccinations were compulsory in the UK and, the US until as recently as the 1960’s
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Re: Compulsory vaccination

Postby Redwoodsman » Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:56 pm

Just to try and agree that everyone in this discussion is correct to an extent. (see the article below)

My position on the various COVID vaccines is, and was, that it really did not really matter if it was 70, 80, 90 or 95 per cent effective (the number of infection differences caused by "effectiveness" are of small consequence to the individual vaccine recipient (see the math)
just get a vaccine (any of them) into the arms of many people as you can - as quickly as you can - build herd immunity as quickly as you can -
the bitching and whinging, politicians looking after their own backsides, journos playing headline games
is all stupidly regrettable -
In the end it will be peoples lives and health that really counts

From The Independent

WHO scientists declared smallpox eradicated in 1980 after a prolonged global vaccination campaign, but there are fears that the virus may still be in the hands of a rogue state or a terrorist group.

Dr Henderson said smallpox might have been retained by some governments despite their guarantees that all remaining stocks were either destroyed or sent to one of two official repositories controlled by the WHO. "The question is, were we sure we had smallpox left in only two laboratories at the end of the eradication programme? There was no way we could guarantee that,'' Dr Henderson said yesterday.

In 1989, a Soviet defector revealed that his government had an extensive and illegal biological weapons programme involving the production of up to 20 tons of smallpox. Dr Henderson yesterday told a smallpox conference in Geneva that other countries, such as Iraq, Syria and Iran, might have retained stocks of smallpox from a naturally occurring outbreak in 1972.
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Re: Compulsory vaccination

Postby Jillandsteve » Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:17 pm

Glassfull wrote:
Jillandsteve wrote:Glassful, read what redwoodsman posted, the CDC findings on the smallpox vaccines
Nothing is 100%, even you



Last case reported was in 1949. Unless you’ve a vial in you back pocket, I think we can safely say, it has been eradicated.

Whilst here talking of Smallpox on the Compulsory Vaccination page. Smallpox vaccinations were compulsory in the UK and, the US until as recently as the 1960’s



Wrong again,
Janet Parker was the last person to die of smallpox. In 1978, Parker was a medical photographer at England’s Birmingham University Medical School. She worked one floor above the Medical Microbiology Department where staff and students conducted smallpox research. She became ill on August 11 and developed a rash on August 15 but was not diagnosed with smallpox until 9 days later. She died on September 11, 1978.

Regardless, my point was that no vaccine is 100% effective even JVT said that tonight on tv
That’s all I was trying to get across
Why you needed to bring up smallpox is baffling
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