Lockdown Dates - What do they really mean?

[quote][/quote] I agree. Once the daily rate of new cases drops to an acceptable level, the government will lift restrictions. They won't continue with them any longer than is absolutely necessary for the medical services to cope, it's hurting the country financially and economically.

In my opinion, the first week or two after restrictions have been lifted will be the time you will be most likely to catch it when everyone mingles again.


I think this is a real issue TonTri - we don't know what the recovery strategy is, and the danger of second, third or more waves is obvious. It will be very instructive to see what happens in Sweden, which - alone - is adopting something close to a "herd immunity" policy...in other words Let's Get This Over With". Brave and risky but could be proved right, rather than cripple the economy, with all the mayhem and suffering that will involve down the years.

The lockdown, as has been said is to delay the amount of people catching it so as the hospitals can cope. I imagine it'll be a while before we can walk about freely safely. Months probably.

My main concern is not the corona virus itself. I'm not in the at risk group by virtue of age or poor health ....but would like to avoid catching it anyway.

Neither is it the economy which is going to take one enormous hit that will make the last 10 years seem like a walk in the park.

My main concern is the lockdown. My fear is that if it goes on for to long & /or is repeated to many times then, people will rebel against the rules. Whilst a few lawbreakers can be swiftly fined/handled by the police......many thousands of lawbreakers will be more difficult to handle. Most elderly people, some of whom will be in the at risk groups are unlikely to rebel in large numbers but the younger generations may decide they've had enough of imposed house arrest resulting in serious cival unrest.

Less likely in Spain than in the UK I think.

My understanding is that Spanish Law only allows a state of urgency to be in place for a certain number of days and that this is the reason why they say it is in place to a certain date. I am sure no one really believes that the April date will be the end of it. I don't think anyone is really certain of what happens with Covid-19 as there are so many variants in progress worldwide and, as most countries have dealt with it differently, it is very hard to say this happens in this number of days and then the next stage is this. Hard as it maybe - and it is hard to deal with such a dramatic change to our lives - I think we have to try to be patient. I am more than willing to stay at home to ensure I don't pass anything on unwittingly and also that I don't risk catching it and causing problems that may not be easily overcome for me and my family.

On a lighter note I have run out of things to paint without Leroy Merlin doing a mercy drop!!

AnnetteD wrote:I understood exactly what you meant. I’m the same, if I don’t feel confortable going into a crowded room after lockdown has ended, I won’t be. Why A.N.Other has to turn it into yet another antagonistic post is beyond me

Since Malthom himself has acknowledged the scope for misinterpretation you might wish to reconsider your criticism and while you're at it please indicate which of my posts you consider antagonistic.

To put an end to the speculation here is the official statement on tbe extension. Unfortunately there does not appear to be any definion of 'non essential activities' attached so we don't know if it means carry on as is or if the restrictions are to be extended into further areas.

El presidente del Gobierno, Pedro Sánchez, anuncia la suspensión de toda actividad no esencial a partir de lunes 30 de marzo.

Siguiendo las recomendaciones del Comité Técnico, y tras comunicárselo a los agentes sociales, el presidente del Gobierno ha tomado la determinación de que todos los trabajadores de actividades no esenciales se queden en sus domicilios entre el 30 de marzo y el 9 de abril, ambas fechas incluidas.

Un Consejo de Ministros extraodinario, que se celebrará telemáticamente mañana domingo, aprobará la medida con la que se reducirá aún más la movilidad de las personas, se disminuirá el riesgo de contagio y permitirá descongestionar las UCIs de los hospitales.

Es el momento de intensificar las medidas con responsabilidad y sacrificio, solo así ganaremos la batalla, ha asegurado el jefe del Ejecutivo.

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The President of the Government, Pedro Sánchez, announces the suspension of all non-essential activities as of Monday 30 March.

Following the recommendations of the Technical Committee, and after informing the social agents, the President of the Government has taken the decision that all workers in non-essential activities will remain at home between 30 March and 9 April, both dates included.

An extraordinary Council of Ministers, which will be held telematically tomorrow, Sunday, will approve the measure which will further reduce the mobility of people, reduce the risk of contagion and allow for the decongestion of hospital ICUs.

It is time to intensify the measures with responsibility and sacrifice, only in this way we will win the battle, assured the head of the Executive.

The UK press today are talking of extending their lockdown until May or June with tighter restrictions.

No 1. Leroy Merlyn are making deliveries so you can paint ‘TIL your heart is content.
No2. Are there any figures and facts of areas/ locations in the Alicante province which have confirmed covid 19 cases?
No3. In the UK some people do not appear to understand the concept of lockdown. They believe that they are safely isolating st home but pop out to get a newspaper or bread. They don’t seem to understand that each time they come into contact with another person puts them at risk of infection
No4. Anarchy. Yes it could happen if people had no money or food. That cannot be allowed to happen to anyone. The UK government is doing its best to make financial provision for all of us.
No5. The saddest and most difficult thing for us to come to terms with is the death of a loved one and not being able to say our farewells either at the end or at the funeral.
No6. We must ALL beg our younger family members to stay inside at all times and avail of local delivery services . Absolutely no contact with anyone
No 7. Check out supermarket delivery services and order yours too.
No 8. Stay well and positive, you are alive and well and you are coping perfectly. Positive thinking at all times. Try to find things to make you laugh as laughter is a great medicine
No 9. My own notion. Take Maluku honey or any honey as it helps your immune system. As a treat, every night, put some honey into a tall glass, put a spoon into the glass and pour boiling water onto it. Stir until dissolved. Add a scoop of whiskey and a slice of lemon with cloves inserted. Remember, this is what our grandparents called taking alcohol for MEDICINAL purposes. You will love it and it will do you and your body the world of good. Cheers everyone x

Now that China is over its "peak" and infection rates are no longer increasing, they are looking at whether antibodies from people who have recovered from the disease can be used to reduce the impact and improve the recovery rate of those cases still actively infected. Another area they are looking at in China is reinfection rates, i.e. can people previously infected catch the disease again? This will help to establish whether a level of "herd immunity" can be achieved. You may remember, the UK's original approach was criticized for making assumptions about herd immunity and the government subsequently amended their intervention strategy to concur with the rest of the world - the Swedish government is beng similarly criticised by the country's scientific community for making similar assumptions.

Data is being added all the time and variations in country populations and behaviours have to be taken into account before arriving at any conclusions. Coronaviruses have been around since the 1960s, but because this variant, SARS-CoV-2, which causes the disease Covid-19, is new, i.e. "novel", this is why we're currently seeing information only about how to report and manage symptoms. Since China has lifted its lockdown, I'm sure the World Health Organisation and scientists world-wide are looking to see how things progress in order to inform future strategy, until such time that a vaccine becomes available.

Given the daily increase in new infection rates, I estimate we'll be into May before lockdown in Spain is lifted:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

Sorry Mcblade, re,number 9 on your list,
if you pour boiling water on the best honey in world, its no good after, as the boiling water kills the natural antibodies in the honey,rendering it still sweet but no goodness left in it,probarly the same with adding alcohol,