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parking rules/law
Re: parking rules/law
by Elliemayc » Thu Dec 05, 2019 2:22 pm
I would give her the benefit of the doubt - maybe she really did want to save you problems. Re the house colours it isn't only the community rules you have to check out but you will find that a lot of deeds for properties on a community specify that the colours can't be changed (also there may be a standard specified for awnings etc) .
Unfortunately agents don't always tell people about community rules - might lose them a sale?
Unfortunately agents don't always tell people about community rules - might lose them a sale?
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Re: parking rules/law
by jpeg » Thu Dec 05, 2019 3:34 pm
Wabryce wrote:I have read on the forum about more rules while driving, you must have a shirt/ top on , cannot drive with your arm out the window, no flip flops, also you cannot eat or drink whilst driving, not sure how accurate this is. ,!!
Apart from the shirt they are all correct even though the flip flops is not a law the Guardia will get you for driving unsafely
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Re: parking rules/law
by marcliff » Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:15 pm
Wabryce wrote:I have read on the forum about more rules while driving, you must have a shirt/ top on , cannot drive with your arm out the window, no flip flops, also you cannot eat or drink whilst driving, not sure how accurate this is. ,!!
Every year the DGT (the Directorate General for Traffic) comes out with a "myth-buster" about these things. Published in summer (when the tourists come) it points out what is correct and what is not.
No shirt. This is not against the law. However, it is advised you shouldn't because, if you suddenly have to stop, the seat belt could cut into you or cause injury to internal organs.
No flip flops or open back sandals. Again, not against the law but, if you have an accident, it could invalidate your insurance as you may have slipped off the pedal or whatever and not in control of the vehicle.
Arm out the window. DGT points out there can't be a law against it as what constitutes an arm outside? 2 cm, dangling down the side, right out of the window? No, no law but you can be stopped for careless driving as you don't have both hands on the steering wheel.
Now, whilst the above is not illegal, if you get stopped by one of those blokes in the green and white cars with guns hanging from their belts, best of luck if you want to argue.
Loose items in the car. Shopping can fall out of bags and smaller items can go flying if you brake suddenly. Especially pets who must have a barrier between them and the passengers. Even worse if you are in an accident and a bottle of HP sauce flies into the bag of your head (or a can of beans etc).
Eating and drinking whilst driving. Yes, against the law. Whilst not specifically against the law in UK, you can be stopped for driving without undue care and attention. Mobile phone usage is against the law in both countries.
Use of headphones is not illegal in UK but, if the police think you are being distracted, they can stop you. In Spain it is illegal.
Loads of other things you can get done for without even moving such as parking against the flow of traffic, using a phone or leaving the radio/engine on at a petrol station. Dirty headlights, dirty windows and so on.
Now, back to the original. No, you cannot change the colour of the outside of your house without permission even if you don't live on a community. You need a works licence from the ayuntamiento to do this and it could be refused if it doesn't blend in with the surroundings. Community presidents or administrators should have colour codes on record for you to use. Even in UK, people have been done for painting their houses in weird colours (one in London got prosecuted for painting the front door in multi-colours I seem to remember).
On a community, you can change colour if you agree at an AGM and everyone else changes theirs. For example, our rules stated walls must be a yukky yellowish colour but it was changed and we now all have white ones. Same as balustrades etc but this was done by an AGM vote.
There are loads of things that you need permission for both on and off a community, especially if it alters the outside appearance. This permission, of course, depends on who you speak to. I've had people tell me you can't paint the interior walls in a different colour or change the tiles in the kitchen or bathroom without permission. However, speaking to Spanish contractors or shop owners, they say you can do anything inside (except knock down or put up internal walls) but need permission for anything outside.
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Re: parking rules/law
by Foz955 » Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:57 pm
Re parking. I believe it's law in UK that you must park in same direction as the traffic. It's logical for safety reasons. I'd think there's a fair chance it's law in Spain as well, would seem sensible.
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Re: parking rules/law
by Bee » Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:55 pm
You are not supposed to eat or drink while driving in UK either but who obeys that? What would happen if a hot cup of coffee suddenly landed in your lap
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Re: parking rules/law
by oldman59 » Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:58 pm
Hi your neighbor might come across as nosey and interfering but she is also saving you money and hassle. As others have posted the community have rules is: colours of the buildings etc, where I am your not supposed to dry the washing outside or hang cloths on the balustrades, it can be dried on the Solarium, but what if you haven't got one ?
The parking can be enforced by the community or the police if the road has been adopted by the Council.
A few years ago the police done a swoop on our Urb and cars on the wrong side of the road and facing the wrong direction were Fined ,but the community is majority of Expats !! If there are marked bays, park there and face the direction of the Traffic flow. No worries then .
Enjoy your stay.
The parking can be enforced by the community or the police if the road has been adopted by the Council.
A few years ago the police done a swoop on our Urb and cars on the wrong side of the road and facing the wrong direction were Fined ,but the community is majority of Expats !! If there are marked bays, park there and face the direction of the Traffic flow. No worries then .
Enjoy your stay.
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Re: parking rules/law
by Red Rock » Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:02 pm
"I'm not here to interfere...…………...but"
ignore her and make sure you get the lowdown on everything from El Presidente
ignore her and make sure you get the lowdown on everything from El Presidente
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Re: parking rules/law
by JennyR » Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:07 am
I'm sorry to hear you are dreading visiting your property at Christmas Jayne. There can be a lot of rules on communities and because of that they get a bad reputation. Most of them are probably common sense and for the good of the community when it's necessary to apply the rules. Such as when you get an 'im alright jack' kind of character.
I personally like living in a community and I have met a lot of nice people. In the uk it is said most people don't know their neighbours. Maybe that is why some of us don't enjoy communities.
I only wish my community were in a position to do something about our noisy neighbour. They are loud, aggressive, inconsiderate and have a store of rubbish outside the property that is growing every week. It has now become a health hazard. They are renters so they are not bothered about the consequences, and the owner just wants the money. This is why the rules are applied.
It has to be said though that even with good intentions some neighbours are not very good in their delivery of the rules, especially when new people arrive. Maybe your neighbour should be more neighbourly and give you time to settle in and be your own considerate self.
I hope you get to enjoy your new property with your family and get to meet some really nice people.
I personally like living in a community and I have met a lot of nice people. In the uk it is said most people don't know their neighbours. Maybe that is why some of us don't enjoy communities.
I only wish my community were in a position to do something about our noisy neighbour. They are loud, aggressive, inconsiderate and have a store of rubbish outside the property that is growing every week. It has now become a health hazard. They are renters so they are not bothered about the consequences, and the owner just wants the money. This is why the rules are applied.
It has to be said though that even with good intentions some neighbours are not very good in their delivery of the rules, especially when new people arrive. Maybe your neighbour should be more neighbourly and give you time to settle in and be your own considerate self.
I hope you get to enjoy your new property with your family and get to meet some really nice people.
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Re: parking rules/law
by GLASSMAN » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:36 am
this is one inconsiderate,our new renting neighbour, bang bang security gate , bang bang front door,and it vibrates though out the block at all times of day, she must think its not my house why bother,she wont have pay for repairs.and you know how thin these walls are ,so imagine the noise wen inside, me n my wife are going have to stop being quite and considerate,
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Re: parking rules/law
by JennyR » Sat Dec 07, 2019 10:22 am
GLASSMAN wrote:this is one inconsiderate,our new renting neighbour, bang bang security gate , bang bang front door,and it vibrates though out the block at all times of day, she must think its not my house why bother,she wont have pay for repairs.and you know how thin these walls are ,so imagine the noise wen inside, me n my wife are going have to stop being quite and considerate,
I feel your pain Glassman. It's unfortunate that owners are not more proactive in dealing with complaints regarding their tenants. There is no motivation for the owners to deal with it. They are only motivated by the money. I think the owners should be fined according to the severity of their neglect.
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