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Satellite TV disruption

Re: Satellite TV disruption

Postby Pug of Cydree » Thu Aug 05, 2021 4:39 pm

Wingnut wrote:Our modern society relies on electronics.
What could possibly go wrong?
Google "Carrington Event"



Yes, OK, but that would result in a total wipe out of all signals, similar to the Spring and Autumn equinox when the sun is directly behind the Clarke Belt and the white noise wipes out the signal. But more ideas welcome.
Interesting to note the disruption is less on my 1.2M dish than the 1.8M dish, which would point to more local interference
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Re: Satellite TV disruption

Postby davebrandrick » Fri Aug 06, 2021 12:20 am

Pug of Cydree wrote:
davebrandrick wrote:
Pug of Cydree wrote:Myself and another specialist just outside Alicante are trying to find out what is causing the problem with these dips, ant thoughts or ideas welcome.

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Is there a correlation between the disruption and solar events, ie the Solar Wind, or Coronal Mass ejections? There's a page here from NASA that monitors Space weather.


https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/communities/satellites

The Kp Index is a measure of the total Earths geomagnetic activity. If Kp rises above 4 you get auroras at the poles. There appears to be, in the short couple of weeks ive been watching this, a loose correlation when Kp peaks and my satellite signal starts to pixillated



Good thought, but as the transmission satellites are on the Clarke Belt which follows the line of the Equator , polar clouds are very unlikely to cause transmission / reception issues.

As an aside, that´s why all satellite dishes in the Northern hemisphere look south and those in the Southern hemisphere look north. At the Equator the point straight up.


No you misunderstand. it's a measure of the total global geomagnetism, which of course is stronger at the poles, that why it triggers aurora at peaks as a side effect. The magnetic field encompasses the entire globe and can still affect geostationary Clark orbit object transmission if strong enough
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Re: Satellite TV disruption

Postby Pug of Cydree » Fri Aug 06, 2021 9:16 pm

Hi
Thanks to those who offered possible explanations, however, the dip in signal has stopped.
Here is the start of August, similar pattern in July
http://satellites-xml.org/signal-graphs ... -graph.php

Here is today, the enigma has vanished!

http://satellites-xml.org/signal-graphs ... -graph.php

Will have to wait for the anomaly to happen again.

But thanks for all the ideas!
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Re: Satellite TV disruption

Postby telmel » Sun Sep 05, 2021 9:18 pm

Pug of Cydree wrote:Have to advise I am a satellite engineer, but this problem is vexing me.
On my 1.8 dish no problems, don´t lose the signals other than high band ITV HD which are impossible to get in this area. low band ITV HD are receivable on some 1.25 ( sold as 1.4 ) dishes depending on exact location.
Yes, on a Freesat box changing the postcode will return ITV HD depending on dish size. If you have a 1.8m dish and cannot get, consult your supplier / maintainer as your dish could require to be re-aligned.
All ITV frequencies changed a while ago, SD variants can be restored by a rescan on free to air boxes, Freesat and Sky boxes should update on their own.
Cling film stops the bugs, but degrades quickly, use the white plastic stuff they use to protect most electrical goods in the boxes they come in. The newer clearer type can effect the signal, so not recommended.
I´m aware of the summer effect caused by the ionosphere but the recent drops twice a day are confusing me.
Myself and another specialist just outside Alicante are trying to find out what is causing the problem with these dips, ant thoughts or ideas welcome.
Oh! Nearly forgot, yes one part of an lnb can fail, but most likely a cable issue, check for inline joints or cable degradation.


Many thanks P
But the strange thing is if i have the sat tv turned on in the living room, this is where the lnb reception is ok, the bedroom tv works also, if the tv in the living room is switched off, i get no signal on the bedroom tv
If it was a cable fault surely i would get no reception at all on the bedroom tv
?
Can one lnb connection affect another in this way?
This has only started happening recently
thanks
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Re: Satellite TV disruption

Postby Rickys » Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:32 am

Have you considered changing to IPTV? We did over 3yrs ago and it's been one of the best things we ever did, pretty much faultless.
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