Travelling to Quesada

Hello Everyone.
We have been planning on moving to Quesada permanently for a while. Placed our UK property on the market and it completed on the 2nd April (what a time for it to complete). Does anyone know the current situation in regards to crossing the French/Spain border. We would look and driving in a couple of weeks.
Regards
Steve

No, you can't. You can't drive through France, you can't go over the border into Spain unless you are a Spanish citizen or certified resident and you can't drive through Spain. If you did manage to get to Spain it is illegal to have more than one in the car. Total lockdown with no hotels open.

I'm wondering if this is actually a wind up.

Look at the post on Facebook from the N332 posted on 27th Mar. It explains there about moving.

To be fair to the OP, selling houses is stressful normally, never mind being it all happening ( or possibly nearly not happening) because of current crisis. Hence their attention may have been on the house sale rather than on everything else. But as Marcliff said, forget the idea of trying to drive to Spain in the near future. Or trying to get to Spain at all in the near future ( you'll struggle to even find a flight ), unless you had already obtained residency cards .If you don't have residency cards you are unlikely to be allowed to enter the country at the moment . You may need to think about renting somewhere in UK for a while until things improve and border controls lifted.

Shiva wrote:To be fair to the OP, selling houses is stressful normally, never mind being it all happening ( or possibly nearly not happening) because of current crisis. Hence their attention may have been on the house sale rather than on everything else. But as Marcliff said, forget the idea of trying to drive to Spain in the near future. Or trying to get to Spain at all in the near future ( you'll struggle to even find a flight ), unless you had already obtained residency cards .If you don't have residency cards you are unlikely to be allowed to enter the country at the moment . You may need to think about renting somewhere in UK for a while until things improve and border controls lifted.

It's been in every UK newspaper, on every TV channel and just a quick look round this board may give a hint,
We have people who are stuck here and can't get back either by plane or car/ferry and we have people stuck in UK who can't return to Spain.
I think anyone who is even considering travelling to Spain in the next couple of weeks must be very cut off from the world especially as the Spanish gov is meeting on Tuesday to extend the lockdown for another 2 weeks. There are no property sales or rentals taking place, all hotels are closed as are all restaurants and non-essential businesses. All town halls are closed until after Easter at the earliest.

Yes, many are getting twitchy at the moment. Another 3 weeks?

Over 10,000 people have now died in Spain. A tragedy. Things are changing all over the world and it just isn't going to be the same for a long time to come.

Sit on your cash for 6 months. You will possibly get a property for 30%-40% cheaper than where they are now.

marcliff wrote:I think anyone who is even considering travelling to Spain in the next couple of weeks must be very cut off from the world especially as the Spanish gov is meeting on Tuesday to extend the lockdown for another 2 weeks..

Yes, well... Some people are.... So government considering another 2 weeks? Not surprising, let's hope there's some definitive positive news soon on declining infection rates, impact of lockdown should start to feed through soon. Though I agree, it will be a very long time before anything goes back to " normal" and it will be a new kind of normal.

A little bit of a drift but how do you think it will be different?

Chrisdee wrote:A little bit of a drift but how do you think it will be different?

Sorry, my crystal ball is on the blink. This is effectively going to be a "structural break" economically and socially. Tourism may take a very long time to recover, many businesses likely to go bust, the impact of the B word on top of all that, who knows. Travel likely to be more expensive even when it gets back to " normal". Fewer people travelling . We just need to get to the other side and take it as it comes.

How many businesses will go to the wall after this? How many people will be out of work?

Will we still travel as extensively? It was surprising to see how many people of various nationalities were actually in Wuhan before this judging by the amount that were trying to get out. What about the airlines? The big ones will probably survive, the smaller ones that we generally use not so much. Destinations may be limited in the future and will certainly be more expensive. The cheap flights to anywhere we want to go may no longer be there, or not for a long time anyway.
Open borders, which we have taken for granted and that includes being able to go virtually anywhere in the world we want to, may become stricter and more controlled. If not forever then certainly for quite a long time.

Governments have spent trillions on fighting this, propping up businesses which is not enough. The stock markets, those ones that pay into pension funds and retirement funds, will take a long time to get back to where they were. All this money will have to be clawed back somehow and simply printing money will not be enough.

This is something we, in the modern world, haven't faced before. Yes, we had Spanish flu and the the plague but long before our time. Ebola seemed to only affect a few, small areas and SARS was confined to a small number. This is far more virulent than anything we have seen.

Those who say, oh, it's only the flu and people would die anyway. Well, they still are getting it and passing on but the Spanish Madrid morbidity model (MoMo) publishes a weekly report on deaths and the last one, the week between 20 to 27 March, shows that Spain has shown an increase of 30% in the death rate for that week than other years.

I think lots will change or will take a long time to get back to normal. Of course, I could be completely wrong and some very clever laboratory will come up with a vaccine against it and future mutations so everything will be fine. It just doesn't seem like it at the moment with almost 1,000 people a day dying in Spain alone.

Now, come on, back to the Boom Boom thread. I could do with cheering up.