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PADRON AMAZED
PADRON AMAZED
by emwood » Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:38 am
WELL LUCKY Rojales residents, can somebody explain why you can be entered on the Padron with just house deeds/rental agreement and your passport. Here in Algorfa you need residencia , passport and house deeds, although how you get a recidencia without being on the Padron confuses me
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Re: PADRON AMAZED
by Espanabums » Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:09 am
The official line is that you cannot be on the padron if you are not a resident, however different ayuntamientos have different views on this. The ayuntamientos receive funding from central government for each person on the padron, so it is in their interest to have as many people on the padron as possible.
Torrevieja used to encourage everyone, resident or not, to be on the padron, but after an audit by central government and a very hefty fine they have since deleted all non residents off the padron.
So called "residencia" is actually just having your details held on the central register of aliens, extranjeros, and does not need a padron certificate only proof of income, healthcare cover, and sufficient identification. Again though, different areas have different interpretations of the requirements for entry onto the register. The official line is that if you reside in Spain for 90 days, in one lump, as a day in another country resets the clock, you´re obliged to be entered on the register.
Torrevieja used to encourage everyone, resident or not, to be on the padron, but after an audit by central government and a very hefty fine they have since deleted all non residents off the padron.
So called "residencia" is actually just having your details held on the central register of aliens, extranjeros, and does not need a padron certificate only proof of income, healthcare cover, and sufficient identification. Again though, different areas have different interpretations of the requirements for entry onto the register. The official line is that if you reside in Spain for 90 days, in one lump, as a day in another country resets the clock, you´re obliged to be entered on the register.
Steve & Jill, Torrevieja
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Re: PADRON AMAZED
by jbeckybo » Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:21 am
I am in Algorfa and obtained padron to purchase a car no problem without residencia last year. Just been down to renew as we are now appying for residencia - go and see Jose on reception desk he speaks really good English.
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Re: PADRON AMAZED
by emwood » Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:26 am
Thanks, but unfortunately the rules seem to change daily.
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Re: PADRON AMAZED
by PeteKnight » Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:19 am
You don’t need the Padron to buy a car as a non-resident. just NIE and proof of address. I’ve bought two cars that way.
The problem is that Rojales is going to come unstuck at some point and be fined - and probably have to pay back the government funds its received illegally. As it’s been doing this quite blatantly and for some considerable time, the eventual financial impact on the council will be significant.
Pete.
The problem is that Rojales is going to come unstuck at some point and be fined - and probably have to pay back the government funds its received illegally. As it’s been doing this quite blatantly and for some considerable time, the eventual financial impact on the council will be significant.
Pete.
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Re: PADRON AMAZED
by marcliff » Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:44 pm
On the other hand, Rojales could go broke if no essential public works money is received for the estimated 60% of non-residents.
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Re: PADRON AMAZED
by william » Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:42 pm
It is called fiddling/fraud being done by your town hall to get revenue from central government by inflating the number of peopling in that area.
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Re: PADRON AMAZED
by Babu » Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:30 pm
A bit confused by the above replies now . . Who benefits from the Suma money then? You pay that whether youre on the Padron or not . . I thought that was set locally to cover public works etc. (Both property and vehicle Suma) . .
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