Robberies

linkwater · by **linkwater** » Tue Mar 15, 2016 3:26 pm

Lolly18 wrote:Hola

With security in mind I have recently been looking for extra locks for our patio window, shutter and grill. We had the front door replaced with a PVC door as a matter of course and extra security when we bought the apartment nearly two years ago.

We have an upstairs apartment and hope that no one would try to jump up and over but I know from past experience that a break in is very upsetting and wouldnt want to be another statistic.

As I have been looking for extra locks I got confused and never bought anything - it would be helpful if more information or photos of locks used or found to do the job as 'it say's on the tin' would be very helpful, I find that there are too many to choose from. Any help would be much appreciated.

One other question - grills - is it adviseable to drill more bolts to anchor the thing to the wall - a jack has been mentioned in forcing them, so reinforcing the grill, would this slow them down ?

Lolly

I think the type of lock depends on what its going to be used on.

A std wooden door would have a 5 lever mortice deadlock fitted internally (5 lever, I think means the number points that you need to 'pick')

Plastic shutter locks would probably slow them down a bit, but you could use a craft knife to split the locked bit with the top half and just roll it back into the top.

Window or patio locks that stop the sliding open of the opening are worth the money but you can't have them partially open.

Extra Anchor points on the grills may just weaken the wall itself.

You could spend a small fortune on security features, I'd suggest reasonable precautions, linked to an alarm/camera system.

simonipswich · by **simonipswich** » Tue Mar 15, 2016 4:44 pm

Little extra things can help, for example when we go out during the day, leaving the radio on. At night leave lights on and also a radio with the blinds down. If out for a while we have timed lights to come on and off, so upstairs might come on for say 10 minutes then go off and a few moments later another light coming on, anything to give the impression that someone is at home. Another tip, is when leaving, at the front door make it look like you are leaving someone there with something like "back later" or "I'll get the milk". If someone was lurking around out of sight, they might think twice.

Jan · by **Jan** » Tue Mar 15, 2016 5:18 pm

simonipswich wrote:Little extra things can help, for example when we go out during the day, leaving the radio on. At night leave lights on and also a radio with the blinds down. If out for a while we have timed lights to come on and off, so upstairs might come on for say 10 minutes then go off and a few moments later another light coming on, anything to give the impression that someone is at home. Another tip, is when leaving, at the front door make it look like you are leaving someone there with something like "back later" or "I'll get the milk". If someone was lurking around out of sight, they might think twice.

I thought it was only me that did all those things (in Spain and the UK). I know some people think I'm weird when I shout " Won't be long, see you later!" as we close the door and wave to the window when walking away.
:text-lol:

I have had friends in the UK say to me, "You were in as we could hear music and the lights were on", I have to explain that we weren't trying to avoid them!
:lol:

Sensor security lamps are good too, so when someone comes near the door or even close to the gate, the light comes on!

Jan.

donaduo · by **donaduo** » Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:20 pm

Yale Superior Locks are Anti Snap, Bump, Pick, Drill or Pull. They are more expensive but a deterrent, plus, you can have a number of locks 'keyed alike'. Having all your locks being opened with just one key might sound less secure but it does allow you to get about without being confused for a prison warder.

Also, try one of these :- http://www.amazon.co.uk/FakeTV-FTV-10-U ... +deterrent They can be set for a four or an eight hour operation after dusk falls or, controlled by a time switch. We use one in the UK and will bring one out to Spain on our next visit.

Lolly18 · by **Lolly18** » Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:55 pm

william · by **william** » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:38 pm

Everyone need a alarm connected to a central station, without this the robbers are not frighten, anything less and i include the response type alarm that calls a mobile phone is totally useless, if you don't believe this ask your local Guardia civil officer. The thieves biggest fear is being caught, they are not stupid, they do in their way a risk assessment before contemplating a break in.

Jordy · by **Jordy** » Wed Mar 16, 2016 5:08 pm

william wrote:Everyone need a alarm connected to a central station, without this the robbers are not frighten, anything less and i include the response type alarm that calls a mobile phone is totally useless, if you don't believe this ask your local Guardia civil officer. The thieves biggest fear is being caught, they are not stupid, they do in their way a risk assessment before contemplating a break in.

Not totally true surely? I have an alarm that isn't connected to a control centre. However, if it were ever to go off
I am sure that it would not be ignored by my neighbours who, if only out of curiosity or annoyance, would investigate why such a racket was going on. When choosing my alarm system I was given the info that the more professional of the thieves actually know the response time of each of the control centres. True or not, I don't know. What I do know is that the residents around me would be out in a minute or two, not 15 or 20.

Jordy

Janjan · by **Janjan** » Wed Mar 16, 2016 6:02 pm

I can assure you our Seurity Company rang our Land Line within 5 minutes when we inadvertly made a mistake when pressing the remote control or forgot altogether. With a password from us and a different one from them we felt very secure.

valenciasman · by **valenciasman** » Wed Mar 16, 2016 6:46 pm

5 minutes is enough for an experienced burglar to be in, take what they want and be gone.

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