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Is this Legal regards VADO
Is this Legal regards VADO
by harleyclose » Fri Feb 09, 2024 1:15 pm
This is the latest from Guardamar Del Segura Council.
This is a translation of the letter being left by the Polica Local regarding Vado’s, plus information which applies and should come under your community rules to decide and agree on. Marked with an *The letter basically says that the laws regarding Vado’s were updated in June 2023.It would seem, that you either apply for a Vado within 15 days of receipt of the letter, or choose to ignore it and face a charge of 482.58 euros. ( not sure if ITV is included)If the Ayuntamiento raises the curb. There is NO appeal.(Although it does not say in the letter, I understand that gates have to be removed and the opening enclosed also.)A Vado costs Approx 60 to 90 euros per year per property that fronts onto a public road. Eg In El Ras Gran.Internal calles which are private roads in the community, may require 1 Vado (single access) or 2 vado’ s (access either end of the calle)* Payment may be divided equally between all properties or the community may decide to pay out of community fees. This may include reimbursement for outer community properties. (To be discussed and voted on at an agm or egm)There is also a cost for the sign itself. Please contact you President as communities have various different ways which this is paid. (In our case it is added to the Suma)So, homeowners of El Raso you have a choice it's up to you.Facts and Legal BasisThat, following the instructions of this Councillor, dated 27 October. 8 November and 7 December 2023, inspections were carried out by the Local Police on the existence or non-existence of the state of conservation, etc., of the licences for vehicle parking on the pavements with permanent gates in the areas of urbanisation El Raso and SUP-7, in this locality.That, as a result of the aforementioned inspections, in the reports drawn up by the Local Police, the existence of a series of discrepancies with respect to the licences authorised by this Town Council was noted, with the existence of garage entrances and on the sidewalks and/or on the kerb to access these with vehicles, lacking the corresponding PERMANENT GATEWAY LICENCE FOR VEHICLES ACROSS THE SIDEWALKS with PERMANENT GATEWAY.That, once it has been established that the pavements in question are municipal roads, a report has been issued by the Acting Treasurer, proposing that, in view of these irregularities, those who appear in the municipal property tax register as owners of the garages in an irregular situation are warned, so that in accordance with the terms of article 82 of Law 39/2015 of 1 October of the Common Administrative Procedure of the Public Administrations, they proceed to request the corresponding licence for the passage of vehicles across the pavements, or failing this, to replace them so as to allow correct pedestrian traffic, proceed to request the corresponding licence for the passage of vehicles across the pavements, or failing that, the replacement of these to allow the correct pedestrian traffic, indicating that in the event of not proceeding as indicated, this will be carried out by the Town Hall at the expense of the owners against whom the payment of the expenses incurred will be reprimanded.That, to this effect, I have been issued a report by the Municipal Engineer on the cost of replacing the pavements to their correct state, in the event that the owners of the garages in an irregular situation do not proceed with the corresponding licence, showing the amount of 482. 58 euros (four hundred and two and fifty-eight cents) the amount of the cost of the replacement and therefore, the amount to be paid by the owners in the event that they do not carry out the indicated works nor apply for the ford licence. In accordance with the powers conferred by Decree 3046/2023 dated 19 JuneRESOLUTIONFIRST- To give notice to the owners of the garages that appear in the reports drawn up by the Local Police on 27 OCTOBER and 8 NOVEMBER 2023, with respect to the urbanisation El Raso and on 7 DECEMBER of this year, with respect to the so-called SUP-7, granting them a period of 15 days to present the necessary documentation and initiate the processing of the granting of the Vado licence, or if applicable, the same to request the license to undertake the works to replace the public domain of the sidewalk that accesses the garage and that does not have the corresponding license..SECOND. - Notify the interested parties of this Decree, informing them that if they do not proceed within the period of 15 days granted, counting from its notification, to present the application for the regularization of their situation in the offices of this City Council(either for the Vado license or for the works license) The order for the repositioning of the sidewalks will be given with the corresponding payment letter with the amount of the works, an amount that is indicated in the explanatory part, charged to the catastral owner of the garage.THIRD. Inform the municipal services in charge of the management of Vado licenses, and the Local Police so that they take due account of this resolution, in order to report regarding its compliance.RESOURCES/ALLEGATIONSWhat their knowledge and effects are communicated, warning that as it is a procedural act and as it is not appropriate to file appeals against it.I thought it was a wind up, they assure me it is not .they say they changed the law 2023 that was handy
This is a translation of the letter being left by the Polica Local regarding Vado’s, plus information which applies and should come under your community rules to decide and agree on. Marked with an *The letter basically says that the laws regarding Vado’s were updated in June 2023.It would seem, that you either apply for a Vado within 15 days of receipt of the letter, or choose to ignore it and face a charge of 482.58 euros. ( not sure if ITV is included)If the Ayuntamiento raises the curb. There is NO appeal.(Although it does not say in the letter, I understand that gates have to be removed and the opening enclosed also.)A Vado costs Approx 60 to 90 euros per year per property that fronts onto a public road. Eg In El Ras Gran.Internal calles which are private roads in the community, may require 1 Vado (single access) or 2 vado’ s (access either end of the calle)* Payment may be divided equally between all properties or the community may decide to pay out of community fees. This may include reimbursement for outer community properties. (To be discussed and voted on at an agm or egm)There is also a cost for the sign itself. Please contact you President as communities have various different ways which this is paid. (In our case it is added to the Suma)So, homeowners of El Raso you have a choice it's up to you.Facts and Legal BasisThat, following the instructions of this Councillor, dated 27 October. 8 November and 7 December 2023, inspections were carried out by the Local Police on the existence or non-existence of the state of conservation, etc., of the licences for vehicle parking on the pavements with permanent gates in the areas of urbanisation El Raso and SUP-7, in this locality.That, as a result of the aforementioned inspections, in the reports drawn up by the Local Police, the existence of a series of discrepancies with respect to the licences authorised by this Town Council was noted, with the existence of garage entrances and on the sidewalks and/or on the kerb to access these with vehicles, lacking the corresponding PERMANENT GATEWAY LICENCE FOR VEHICLES ACROSS THE SIDEWALKS with PERMANENT GATEWAY.That, once it has been established that the pavements in question are municipal roads, a report has been issued by the Acting Treasurer, proposing that, in view of these irregularities, those who appear in the municipal property tax register as owners of the garages in an irregular situation are warned, so that in accordance with the terms of article 82 of Law 39/2015 of 1 October of the Common Administrative Procedure of the Public Administrations, they proceed to request the corresponding licence for the passage of vehicles across the pavements, or failing this, to replace them so as to allow correct pedestrian traffic, proceed to request the corresponding licence for the passage of vehicles across the pavements, or failing that, the replacement of these to allow the correct pedestrian traffic, indicating that in the event of not proceeding as indicated, this will be carried out by the Town Hall at the expense of the owners against whom the payment of the expenses incurred will be reprimanded.That, to this effect, I have been issued a report by the Municipal Engineer on the cost of replacing the pavements to their correct state, in the event that the owners of the garages in an irregular situation do not proceed with the corresponding licence, showing the amount of 482. 58 euros (four hundred and two and fifty-eight cents) the amount of the cost of the replacement and therefore, the amount to be paid by the owners in the event that they do not carry out the indicated works nor apply for the ford licence. In accordance with the powers conferred by Decree 3046/2023 dated 19 JuneRESOLUTIONFIRST- To give notice to the owners of the garages that appear in the reports drawn up by the Local Police on 27 OCTOBER and 8 NOVEMBER 2023, with respect to the urbanisation El Raso and on 7 DECEMBER of this year, with respect to the so-called SUP-7, granting them a period of 15 days to present the necessary documentation and initiate the processing of the granting of the Vado licence, or if applicable, the same to request the license to undertake the works to replace the public domain of the sidewalk that accesses the garage and that does not have the corresponding license..SECOND. - Notify the interested parties of this Decree, informing them that if they do not proceed within the period of 15 days granted, counting from its notification, to present the application for the regularization of their situation in the offices of this City Council(either for the Vado license or for the works license) The order for the repositioning of the sidewalks will be given with the corresponding payment letter with the amount of the works, an amount that is indicated in the explanatory part, charged to the catastral owner of the garage.THIRD. Inform the municipal services in charge of the management of Vado licenses, and the Local Police so that they take due account of this resolution, in order to report regarding its compliance.RESOURCES/ALLEGATIONSWhat their knowledge and effects are communicated, warning that as it is a procedural act and as it is not appropriate to file appeals against it.I thought it was a wind up, they assure me it is not .they say they changed the law 2023 that was handy
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Re: Is this Legal regards VADO
by Graham_Lynn » Fri Feb 09, 2024 3:23 pm
This has been copied from the El Raso Facebook page and as already noted on that page the presidents committee are trying to clarify it, with the local councillor etc. In one response the N332 Facebook page, have clarified the “Vado”, but obviously cannot comment on the legality of the ayuntamiento charging people to raise kerbs
The letter has been sent out to Guardamar residents listed in the above areas, who have got dropped kerbs, but do not own a Vado.
Note the translation also contained a typo regarding ITV should really read IVA.
The letter has been sent out to Guardamar residents listed in the above areas, who have got dropped kerbs, but do not own a Vado.
Note the translation also contained a typo regarding ITV should really read IVA.
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Re: Is this Legal regards VADO
by blingle » Sat Feb 10, 2024 11:15 am
bass2112 wrote:What is a vado?
Google should be your friend...
https://blog.abacoadvisers.com/what-is-a-vado-in-spain/
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Re: Is this Legal regards VADO
by Martin the artist » Sun Feb 11, 2024 9:48 am
From N332 facebook page:-
Many people believe that having a garage space at home guarantees free access to it and that no one will be able to park in front of it, but that is not the case. Unless you request a VADO, any vehicle can park without any restrictions.
Only a legal "VADO" sign posted on your garage door can prohibit vehicles to park and allow you free access to the property.
People might think that vado is simply a no-parking sign, but it is actually the right to cross a public sidewalk where you pay a fee to the town hall compensating for the adicional cost for maintaining. Price can vary pending on area and on how many vehicles are passing.
]To ask about vado you can contact your town hall
House #1:
The neighbor thinks that since he has a parking space inside his plot, it is enough to paint a yellow line in the entrance area to inform other drivers that they cannot park in that part of the street.
House nº2:
This neighbor thinks that by buying the "Permanent Vado" or "No Parking" sign at the hardware store, the rest of the users will respect it and not park at his garage door.
House #3:
This person has informed the Town Hall of the regulations that regulate parking on public roads and has requested a VADO.
In a few weeks he has received the VADO license plate issued by the municipal authority which comes with an identifying number for each sign. Once the plate was granted, this person proceeded to paint a continuous yellow line whose length is marked on the authorization issued by the Town Hall
Many people believe that having a garage space at home guarantees free access to it and that no one will be able to park in front of it, but that is not the case. Unless you request a VADO, any vehicle can park without any restrictions.
Only a legal "VADO" sign posted on your garage door can prohibit vehicles to park and allow you free access to the property.
People might think that vado is simply a no-parking sign, but it is actually the right to cross a public sidewalk where you pay a fee to the town hall compensating for the adicional cost for maintaining. Price can vary pending on area and on how many vehicles are passing.
]To ask about vado you can contact your town hall
House #1:
The neighbor thinks that since he has a parking space inside his plot, it is enough to paint a yellow line in the entrance area to inform other drivers that they cannot park in that part of the street.
House nº2:
This neighbor thinks that by buying the "Permanent Vado" or "No Parking" sign at the hardware store, the rest of the users will respect it and not park at his garage door.
House #3:
This person has informed the Town Hall of the regulations that regulate parking on public roads and has requested a VADO.
In a few weeks he has received the VADO license plate issued by the municipal authority which comes with an identifying number for each sign. Once the plate was granted, this person proceeded to paint a continuous yellow line whose length is marked on the authorization issued by the Town Hall
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