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As we understand it we can visit/stay in Spain for 183 days before tax laws are applied,for clarity is the 183 days a calendar year,a financial year, or a twelve month period commencing first visit.
Is the Spanish financial year similar to the UK dates.

A calendar year. In Spain, the calendar year ( 1 Jan to 31 Dec) is the same as the financial year.
The 183 days does not have to be consecutive.

Liz & Gordon wrote:As we understand it we can visit/stay in Spain for 183 days before tax laws are applied,for clarity is the 183 days a calendar year,a financial year, or a twelve month period commencing first visit.
Is the Spanish financial year similar to the UK dates.

To be classed as Non-Resident we can't stay in Spain for any more than 183 days (as marcliff says, it's not necessarily consecutive but the time spent in Spain annually should not add up to more that that)

Apparently, staying in Spain over 183 days (when added up) would class as Resident and Residencia would need to be applied for.

I've always thought (but not 100% sure??) that it's 1st January to 31st December for the 6 month (183 days) rule and for Tax purposes (Financial Year) in Spain.

If I'm correct it's only the UK who have this strange Tax year starting April 5th.


Jan

It is the Calendar year, if you wish to stay longer than 90 days you need to get a Permanencia which is an extension that is stamped in your passport. You are only allowed one Permanencia in one year. Permanencia means a temporary stay and not a permanent one! This will allow you 180 days but it is said more than 183 days you must obtain Residency. The authorities are now getting stronger about this. People who have shot across the border to escape this ruling will now find it harder as Passports will be checked. Some have been stopped and ordered to get a Residency while others have been refused entry. Best to do the right thing. Lets not forget the Padron. Resident or not. We must all do this as it helps your whole Community.

After we book our flights for this year we will be approaching our 183 days allocation before tax implications.

Just a thought as passports are not stamped, who keeps a "running total" passport holders, or border control.

Without knowing we could trip over the threshold.

Not intentionally.

Dumb question, but how can they check the passports within the EU as one does not have any passport controls going to any of the other countries (when driving) except the UK (And since there are no stamps in the passport, how would they know)?

I have a German passport and they would have absolutely no clue whether I am here or in Germany or anywhere else in Europe. The only thing they would be able to possibly prove is my trips to the UK.

It seems to me that UK passport holders are at a disadvantage here!

Depends how honest you are about overstaying in Spain. At least the Spanish don't give Healthcare to all and sundry. The U.K. moan about how the NHS is abused by Foreigners but don't seem to have a proper system.
Our Spanish Bank knew we had applied for Residency before we told them. It's called liaison.

Your Spanish bank would know because you will have paid the fee for the residencia with them

In 20003 we were given a form after queuing at the Police Station in Alicante to take to the Bank to pay and had to collect Resident Cards from the National Police in Orihuela after a month but not during August. Shows how times have changed then.

Hi All

WOW what an Aladdin's Cave of good information this forum is proving to be as we prepare to come to Spain, having completed the purchase of our property in Quesada.

A big to Jan and the team for running it.

One thing I am still unclear about is this 183 day rule. As asked by Chisseb above "Who keep a count of the days spend in Spain"?

The way I read it it's down to us.

My partner is a non EU resident and therefore has a Schengen visa which could be stamped anywhere Paris, Rome whatever when she enters the EU not necessarily Spain so although her passport is stamp the days in Spain count is not accurate, I am a UK citizen and can therefore travel freely within the EU, well until 23 June but we wont go there

Cant wait to really be there....

Vera and Geoff