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Oh dear,whatever next

Just remember Death can be fatal.

Great timing, all saints day. I still reckon that old faithful Avalon will be lurking in the background somewhere

I have decided that when I die I want to be buried face down with my bum sticking out the ground, just in case anybody is looking to park their bicycle

Is this a veiled attempt to advertise a pro euthanasia group?( I have no problem with this) It seems most odd. If they really are not selling a product and dont have an agenda, Im not sure there is public demand for this type of 'conversation.' Perhaps there is a reason for it being the 'first one in Spain.'

SuzannaN wrote:Is this a veiled attempt to advertise a pro euthanasia group?( I have no problem with this) It seems most odd. If they really are not selling a product and dont have an agenda, Im not sure there is public demand for this type of 'conversation.' Perhaps there is a reason for it being the 'first one in Spain.'

Hi all,

TalkQuesada was politely asked by DeniseMaria if she could post this and we did say yes on the understanding that they were not selling anything. Interestingly, it's not the first one in other parts of the world though. It has been an event in the UK for while see this link :
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyl ... bout-dying

We are not under any illusion though that there may be professionals or companies attending or recommended during the event but as long as it's a free cafe then we see no reason (at the moment) to refuse this topic.

If anyone does go, please report back and tell us what it's all about.

Thank you, Jan.
I have also just read a little about the organisation . It seems to almost be a social franchise on death and dying. Hopefully, it will be of use to people. I'll remain personally sceptical however lol

If it helps to allay some misconceptions here's a copy of an email sent to me by DeniseMaria. I said I would post this for her:
(Sorry about the text misalignment but it's just how it came out on the copy and paste):

Quote:
"I can assure you that
this is not with any other agenda than to get people talking and to get
them to perhaps? consider making arrangements, 'wishes' for how they would
like their funeral to be. Exchanging stories, ideas with others who wish
they had done things differently for loved ones in the past, when not in an
emotional and distressed state.
I work with bereaved families and one of the biggest added upsets is when
there have been no plans or wishes made by the deceased. You can imagine
that this can be added to by 'in house' disagreements involving family,
that sometimes arrive here from the UK within an hour before the actual
funeral. I do not mean funeral plans (Avalon or similar) but plans for the
actual service and its content. There are also a lot of misconceptions re
the differences regarding the procedure here in Spain.
When I say there will be professionals on hand to answer questions, it will
be exactly that, answers from those who know and not rumours.
There is absolutely nothing for sale, it is 'purely' an information and
thought-provoking discussion that will hopefully make people think about
making their wishes clear to assist their families when the time occurs.
The DeathCafé movement is viewed as strange by many, but equally as many,
once they realise what it's actually about, go home informed and think
about planning and making their wishes clear to their family. And then
enjoy the life they have even more once they have it sorted!"

If the stated aims are true I think this is a good thing..

Too many people are very un-prepared for the death of loved one...at that time few people can think straight, they can make bad decisions, listen to the wrong people and spend tons of needless money

... simple things can make a big difference... like talking to each other about what happens at the end...do they want a carriage with black horses and golden coffin?... or something more simple..?..

I have seen people spend LOTS of money they could ill afford on a funeral simply because they "wanted to do their best"
for dad.. or mum.. or...whomever

We are all going to end up dead... so why not prepare?

And I have seen many people die, arranged many funerals, and counselled lots of families... I also did a course on death and dying (thanatology) through the OU..

.. and no, I have never seen this group but the principle seems good...just so long as there is no hard sell..
...