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Re: Proposed Rights

PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:13 pm
by Shiva
Ok, see what you mean , I get it, different CUSTOMS control !!!! All that to look forward to :? in the future...

Re: Proposed Rights

PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:57 pm
by tel49
Marcliff, thanks once again for a good post. One question springs to mind about residency in Spain and that is do you have to inform authorities or attend the office if you change address?

Re: Proposed Rights

PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:25 pm
by marcliff
tel49 wrote:Marcliff, thanks once again for a good post. One question springs to mind about residency in Spain and that is do you have to inform authorities or attend the office if you change address?



You have to attend the National Police Station again with another EX18 form and the bottom ticked at
Modificacion - Por cambio de domicilio
And, yes, you have to pay the €10.60 again.(for the form 790 payment form)
(You didn't think you'd get away with it, did you? Not in Spain).

Re: Proposed Rights

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:08 am
by Quigley
Everyone has an opinion on how the pros and cons of Brexit will effect UK and EU citizens. No one actually knows.
Therefore it's best to accept that nothing is agreed until all is agreed.

Re: Proposed Rights

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:52 pm
by earlybay
I believe the rights of Family Life are to be guaranteed post Brexit - a EU citizen living in the UK would be allowed to bring their family (post Brexit) to live with them in the UK and they also would have health-care, work and residential rights. Does this mean a UK person resident in Spain could bring members of their family to live in Spain with access to all the above resident's rights in a post Brexit scenario? (e.g. Son's and daughters)
All depends on how "Family" is defined in the final agreement I suppose.

Re: Proposed Rights

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:42 pm
by marcliff
amiller wrote:I believe the rights of Family Life are to be guaranteed post Brexit - a EU citizen living in the UK would be allowed to bring their family (post Brexit) to live with them in the UK and they also would have health-care, work and residential rights. Does this mean a UK person resident in Spain could bring members of their family to live in Spain with access to all the above resident's rights in a post Brexit scenario? (e.g. Son's and daughters)
All depends on how "Family" is defined in the final agreement I suppose.



I refer the honourable gentleman (or lady) to my original post. It references Article 2 of Directive 2004/38/EC which lays down family members as:

"Family member" means:

(a)
the spouse;
(b)
the partner with whom the Union citizen has contracted a registered partnership, on the basis of the

legislation of a Member State, if the legislation of the host Member State treats registered partnerships

as equivalent to marriage and in accordance with the conditions laid down in the relevant legislation

of the host Member State;
(c)
the direct descendants who are under the age of 21 or are dependants and those of the spouse or partner

as defined in point (b);
(d)
the dependent direct relatives in the ascending line and those of the spouse or partner as defined in

point (b);



Re: Proposed Rights

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:34 pm
by tel49
marcliff wrote:
tel49 wrote:Marcliff, thanks once again for a good post. One question springs to mind about residency in Spain and that is do you have to inform authorities or attend the office if you change address?



You have to attend the National Police Station again with another EX18 form and the bottom ticked at
Modificacion - Por cambio de domicilio
And, yes, you have to pay the €10.60 again.(for the form 790 payment form)
(You didn't think you'd get away with it, did you? Not in Spain).



Many thanks my friend, just got to find the National Police Station and where to get the forms and does that mean an appointment? I guess I may find the forms for downloading on the web huh.

Re: Proposed Rights

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:39 pm
by marcliff
You can get the forms (the EX18 and the 790) from the Citizens Advice Bureau Spain which will also give you examples in English of how to complete them.CAB Spain
Remember, the English translations are for you guidance only and you have to submit the forms in Spanish.
Yes, you will need to make an appointment but, once again, the CAB Spain comes to the rescue.
Cita Previa application

That'll save you some searching.

Re: Proposed Rights

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:28 pm
by tel49
Marcliff, many thanks again. All that just to change my address LOL
Does everyone do this I wonder as I have residency? I guess this is Spain huh!!!
I moved from Andalucia and had to do all the medical stuff already but change of residency address seems like doing the whole residency thing again, crikey. Where is the National Police Station o'wise one.
Cheers my friend, very much appreciated.

Re: Proposed Rights

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:29 pm
by tel49
Marcliff, many thanks again. All that just to change my address LOL
Does everyone do this I wonder as I have residency? I guess this is Spain huh!!!
I moved from Andalucia and had to do all the medical stuff already but change of residency address seems like doing the whole residency thing again, crikey. Where is the National Police Station o'wise one.
Cheers my friend, very much appreciated.