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Posted: **Wed Jan 05, 2022 7:57 pm**

I don't see any mention in your post regarding applying for Residencia. You will have to satisfy income requirements to show you have the means to support yourself and show you have Spanish Health Insurance.

Do I take it you have never actually been in Quesada? I ask because there are other areas which might be worth looking at. Depending on whether you like golf or would like to be near the sea or if you would like to be in a town or in the country.

Bee

Posted: **Fri Jan 07, 2022 10:17 am**

Bee wrote:I don't see any mention in your post regarding applying for Residencia. You will have to satisfy income requirements to show you have the means to support yourself and show you have Spanish Health Insurance.

Do I take it you have never actually been in Quesada? I ask because there are other areas which might be worth looking at. Depending on whether you like golf or would like to be near the sea or if you would like to be in a town or in the country.

Bee

Hi Bee,

Many thanks for taking the time to post a number of replies. You are correct, we have not been in Quesada yet. We have booked a 7 day trip for early March to check out the Quesada and the Torrevieja area in general. We are trying to future proof the place we buy and are considering a bungalow as well as being close to amenities with not too many hills etc. We are not stuck on Quesada but found the prices a bit cheaper than other areas. Neither of us play golf and long term we feel we would need to be reasonably close to shops etc so living out in the country was ruled out.

We intend to be in Spain full time with just the odd trip back home to visit family. Having said that, I imagine relatives will probably want to visit us due to the 300+ days of sunshine in Spain! The more we read on taxes, the more I think we need to speak to a solicitor when we are over in March. As you mention, we will also need to arrange health insurance. I will do some more digging on the forum to see what may be the best value.

As we will be full time in Spain, we will only need to worry about resident tax. Some posts mentioned that this will be next to nothing as we will not have any income as we will be retired and living on savings until our pensions kick in in a number of years. I am guessing a certified copy of our bank balance will suffice to get the NIE and show we have enough to support ourselves.

Thanks again Bee.

Regards.

John & Angie.

Posted: **Fri Jan 07, 2022 10:31 am**

Murt wrote:Re question 13 on buying a car.

Why not take your current Irish car over with you. You can get it re-registered once you're over there. I've seen a lot of former UK cars re-registered before Brexit.

According to the motoring press, the 2nd hand car prices worldwide are absolutely crazy at the moment. There are two big causes.

(1) A worldwide shortage of computer chips for new cars. Everything in a modern car needs a computer chip to operate. Knock on of that is that dealers are finding it harder and harder to get the stock of new cars they want, so people are hanging onto their old car for another year or two also contributing to the shortage, as it trickles on all the way down. Here's a New York Times atricle on car computer chips (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/23/busi ... cedes.html)

(2) A huge source of nearly new 2nd hand cars came as a result of car hire companies selling off their stock after a season or two. This hasn't happened since Covid. No tourists - No demand. The car companies simply haven't ordered new cars that there wasn't the tourists there to hire them out. In addition to this, with the chip shortage the manufacturers were less willing to give the car hire companies the steep discounts they usually got for bulk buying.

A couple of years ago I had nothing else to do and went shopping for a car (no intention of buying). This was pre COVID or the chip shortage.

Here's a link to a post i made at the time. Sorry for the type script errors, but you'll see what I mean about Spanish car dealers. And these are main dealers.

post189295.html?hilit=yaris#p189295

Hi Murt,

Thanks for your reply. I have a company car so unfortunately taking that wont work. We intend to only have one car in Spain. My wife has a nice little converible Merc with very low mileage but there is almost no space for carrying anything in it so thats probably not a runner either. Its a pity as it would be perfect as a second car in Spain. Looking at the link you provided in your post, I think we will end up getting a new car as the second hand car prices seem to be very high in Spain (and elsewhere) and for the sake of saving €5k on a 3 year old car, it makes sense to get a new one and not have to worry about the cars history.

We have a trip bbooked and will ne in Spain in 8 weeks. Looking forward to checking out teh areas we have only so far seen on video.

Thanks again for your reply Murt,

Regards.

John & Angie.

Posted: **Fri Jan 07, 2022 10:35 am**

Wow, so much info. Some very good and some just not true! As many have said just let SGM Abogados guide you through the process. Good luck in your venture.

Posted: **Fri Jan 07, 2022 3:36 pm**

You won't need to supply any proof of income for an NIE. It is a Numero Identidad Extranjero. It is a unique number and it lasts forever. It is used to register you with the Policia Nacional as a foreigner. You use it to identify yourself for all kinds of legal and tax documents i.e for buying property, renting a house, tax returns, buying a car etc. It is like our PRSI number. Residencia card application is where you have to supply proof of income.

I would advise as well as looking at Quesada you look at Orihuela Costa- lots going on there and lots of Irish and British pubs- Guardamar del Seguro and Torrevieja Town and urbs and La Mata which is part of Torrevieja and has a fantastic bus service in to Torrevieja town centre. Torrevieja has a great bus service and the buses are free to those who are signed on the Padron. Torrevieja also has a direct bus to the Airport 365 days of the year and buses to Alicante city as well as national bus services. You would be able to walk to the beaches in any of the above locations except Ciudad Quesada.

Is there anybody that is familiar with the area who you could ask to accompany you and show you around. Local knowledge is invaluable and especially from people who live there all the year round.

Bee

Posted: **Sat Jan 08, 2022 4:02 pm**

DTR wrote:Wow, so much info. Some very good and some just not true! As many have said just let SGM Abogados guide you through the process. Good luck in your venture.

Cheers DTR.

Thanks for your reply.

Regards.

John & Angie.

Posted: **Sat Jan 08, 2022 4:09 pm**

Bee wrote:You won't need to supply any proof of income for an NIE. It is a Numero Identidad Extranjero. It is a unique number and it lasts forever. It is used to register you with the Policia Nacional as a foreigner. You use it to identify yourself for all kinds of legal and tax documents i.e for buying property, renting a house, tax returns, buying a car etc. It is like our PRSI number. Residencia card application is where you have to supply proof of income.

I would advise as well as looking at Quesada you look at Orihuela Costa- lots going on there and lots of Irish and British pubs- Guardamar del Seguro and Torrevieja Town and urbs and La Mata which is part of Torrevieja and has a fantastic bus service in to Torrevieja town centre. Torrevieja has a great bus service and the buses are free to those who are signed on the Padron. Torrevieja also has a direct bus to the Airport 365 days of the year and buses to Alicante city as well as national bus services. You would be able to walk to the beaches in any of the above locations except Ciudad Quesada.

Is there anybody that is familiar with the area who you could ask to accompany you and show you around. Local knowledge is invaluable and especially from people who live there all the year round.

Bee

Hi Bee,

So much excellent information. You are a star. Thanks again. We have been clearing out the attic most of this morning. Its amazing the stuff you collect over the years and then competely forget about. We found a brand new kettle, a nice set of pots and an iron we forgot we had! Lots of bags for the charity shop on Monday! Lol.

Best wishes.

John & Angie.

Posted: **Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:18 pm**

The kettle and the iron wern't wedding presents by any chance. You might even come across the 4 ironing boards and 5 candlewick bedspreads as you keep clearing

Bee

Posted: **Mon Jan 10, 2022 12:49 pm**

Bee wrote:The kettle and the iron wern't wedding presents by any chance. You might even come across the 4 ironing boards and 5 candlewick bedspreads as you keep clearing Bee

. We ended up with lots of duplicates as we both had houses before we got married. I had two kitchens in both of my previous houses as well (For my Mom who lived with me until she passed) so I already had duplicates of most items. When myself and Angie got married in 2018, we gave a lot of stuff away and only kept the items still brand new in boxes. I am sure when we actually do the move to Spain, another kettle and iron will probably surface!

Cheers.

John & Angie.

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:38 am**

I thought of you when I came across this article. It is on the Irish side of the tax implications of selling or keeping your house if you move to Spain fulltime

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/per ... -1.4524906

Bee

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