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Posted: **Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:04 pm**

jpeg wrote:Published on Tuesday, November 24, 2020
IATA develops Covid-free app to kick-start air travel recovery

Sounds good hope it works mate, Pete

The International Air Transport Association says it is in the advanced development phase of its 'Travel Pass' app which would provide proof of a passenger's Covid-free status.

The Travel Pass would display test results as well as proof of a Covid vaccination, and would link to a digitized copy of their passport to prove their identity.

A pilot program will start with British Airways parent International Airlines Group (IAG) later this year.

The app's security features would allow authorized labs and test centers to securely share test and vaccination certificates with passengers.

It will also display a global registry of health requirements for passengers based on destination.

The app can 'manage travel documentation digitally and seamlessly throughout the journey,' IATA said.

Travelers will be able to present a QR code for scanning at border points.

"Our main priority is to get people traveling again safely. In the immediate term that means giving governments confidence that systematic Covid-19 testing can work as a replacement for quarantine requirements, and that will eventually develop into a vaccine program. The IATA Travel Pass is a solution for both," IATA said.

Written by Ray Montgomery, US Editor

Posted: **Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:01 am**

That’s going to be difficult for us travelling to Spain on 2nd January. Let’s hope we can find somewhere we can get the test done on 30th December and then get the results by 1st January for travel on 2nd. And another £200!!! On top of our flights. Ouch!

Posted: **Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:18 am**

marcliff wrote:Why would a PCR test from Norway not mean anything to Spain? What would people from non-exempt parts of Norway do?

Because the 'Hotspot' is Holland, not Norway and getting a test in a place where there are no (or very few) cases doesn't really mean much.

For example, with all of the advisories before, if you even 'Transited' through a known hotspot, such as Amsterdam (even if you were there for a few minutes), you still had to self isolate on your return to the UK. Norway has the same rules. You come from non hotspot direct, no isolation, but the moment you land in a hotspot to transit, immediate isolation on arrival...

When I land in Spain, the flight will be coming from 'Holland', not Norway. I am just wondering whether the rules stipulate that I have to get a test regardless..

Posted: **Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:04 am**

I really think you are reading too much into this.
Why do you think a PCR test in a place that is not what you call a "hotspot" not going to be valid? It's a medical test and procedure and is exactly the same regardless of where you get the test done. If you have a PCR certificate showing it is negative within 72 hours of travel then that would be valid, surely, in any country you are going to.

As your stopover in the Netherlands is very limited you would not be able to get a test done there so the one you have in Norway would suffice in which case nobody would be allowed to travel unless they stayed in the Netherlands for long enough to have the test done and the results to come back.

Another rule is that the tour operator or airline must inform the passenger at the ticket buying stage whether a PCR negative test is required or not. Have the airline told you that?

I really cannot, for the life of me, see a problem providing you have the test done and the certificate is issued.

I also don't think you'll need one anyway as the rules state:
It will be required for all passengers coming from a high risk country or area where their journey started in

All the rules are listed on this site [url=ww.aena.es/en/frequentlyaskedquestions.html]Covid-19 to Spain[/url]
Then go to the frequently asked questions page where it states, several times, where their journey started from.

Posted: **Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:13 am**

marcliff wrote:I really think you are reading too much into this.
Why do you think a PCR test in a place that is not what you call a "hotspot" not going to be valid? It's a medical test and procedure and is exactly the same regardless of where you get the test done. If you have a PCR certificate showing it is negative within 72 hours of travel then that would be valid, surely, in any country you are going to.

As your stopover in the Netherlands is very limited you would not be able to get a test done there so the one you have in Norway would suffice in which case nobody would be allowed to travel unless they stayed in the Netherlands for long enough to have the test done and the results to come back.

Another rule is that the tour operator or airline must inform the passenger at the ticket buying stage whether a PCR negative test is required or not. Have the airline told you that?

I really cannot, for the life of me, see a problem providing you have the test done and the certificate is issued.

I also don't think you'll need one anyway as the rules state:
It will be required for all passengers coming from a high risk country or area where their journey started in

All the rules are listed on this site [url=ww.aena.es/en/frequentlyaskedquestions.html]Covid-19 to Spain[/url]
Then go to the frequently asked questions page where it states, several times, where their journey started from.

It has nothing to do with the test being valid or not, of course it will be 'Valid'. My question was would they require me to get one from Holland, as that is the 'High Risk' area I would be coming through, not the area of Norway I am in.

You have however answered my question with the second part of your answer, in that I would only have to get a test (if necessary, which it isn't presently) from 'Where the journey started'.

Like I said, before it didn't matter where the journey started, if you went through a known high risk area on your journey, you had to isolate anyway (at least here, and the UK), I was just wondering if that stood for the PCR test in Spain as well..

Thanks for the link.

Posted: **Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:10 pm**

Be sure and let us know what happens in Alicante Airport when you land as it will be useful to other travellers. As your flight will be from Holland you will be in a Q with people showing their PCR Certs. You won't be required to have one as you are coming from a safe area so presumably there will be a different Q for safe areas. The only thing that the authorities at the Airport might request you to do is take one of the quick antigen tests which might delay you by an hour.

Also your travel form which has already been submitted is proof of your flight details and home address.

Bee

Posted: **Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:32 pm**

Bee wrote:Be sure and let us know what happens in Alicante Airport when you land as it will be useful to other travellers. As your flight will be from Holland you will be in a Q with people showing their PCR Certs. You won't be required to have one as you are coming from a safe area so presumably there will be a different Q for safe areas. The only thing that the authorities at the Airport might request you to do is take one of the quick antigen tests which might delay you by an hour.

Also your travel form which has already been submitted is proof of your flight details and home address.

Bee

Hi Bee

I sure will, I really hope to avoid any fines but of course if they require me to take the test I will.

When you say my travel form, which form do you mean. The government one I fill in prior to getting on the plane?

So far I have received nothing from KLM to tell me I have to get a PCR test before travelling, this was mentioned earlier, so I am guessing I don't have to do it..

Posted: **Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:33 pm**

Yes that's the form I mean - the Spanish Government Health Travel Form which everybody has to fill in. We will be waiting for an update

Bee

Posted: **Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:48 pm**

Just to add a word of warning - you need to book tests well in advance. My husband has to go to Uk unexpectedly and urgently, returning to Spain 11 Dec. We’ve had a devil of a job finding an appointment in south / central London for 2 weeks’ time. Got one booked now but it’s taken hours to find it.

Posted: **Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:45 am**

webbshirley wrote:Where in. UK can I go and get this PCR test done?

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