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What are peoples views on the situation in Catalonia? Have there been any problems in Quesada? I think some of the local Police went to help when it all kicked off in Barcelona . I am just interested to know if the situation is likely to impact on the rest of Spain ,in particular, Quesada area.

Hello
I have recently sold a house in Catalunya. It was in L'Ampolla , the southern part. I owned it for nine years and in that time I realised that the independence movement was gathering pace. In the area Catalan was spoken and taught in schools. Now all signs and documents are only in Catalan. Interestingly to me is that the younger generation seem more pro independence than older people, the ones that actually remember the Franco years.
It is a real shame that people cannot move on from the past and then promote a 'superior' ideology/culture which suits their view i.e Madrid takes our money or Andalucians are lazy.
However I have met lovely Catalans as well as Spaniards and wish everyone would relax a little.
The history of Catalunya is beyond me but I think it has never been an independent country in the past, it was under control of the Aragonese. Imagine if Cornwall declared independence.
In the south where I was there was no trouble as everyone was in favour of independence- or perhaps any 'remainers' did not wish to express their view due to repercussions. Despite Catalunya being constantly labelled as The Rich Part of Spain, outside of major centres of commerce people seem( to me) as poor/rich as anywhere and some villages are almost derelict.
Some foreigners in the area have tried to gain electoral consent but I don't think they managed, despite being resident for many years. Democracy only is democratic if everyone is a participant.
This is only my take on it.

I also lived in catalonia until a few yrs ago. Whilst i can conferm i met many nice catalan people who were very friendly , i couldn't say the same for the powers that be. Just a simple request for a padron renewal, perhaps to buy a car , was met with miss trust, scowls and tuts. Despite them haveing all the computers within hands reach , we were made to return in 3 day, to collect the paperwork and were charged 10 euros for there trouble. We were repeatedly asked to come to the office , to show our faces, to ensure we actually lived in the town, until our catalan friend acompanied us to the office one day , and told the jobsworth that they were harrasing his friends and it had to stop.. Fortunately it did. Life was not easy there, and i am very pleased to say we sold up and moved to Quesada. I really hope all our expat friends we have left in Catalonia stay safe , and dont get on the wrong side of lady jobs worth. Whilst i lived there the ruling party were very much against immigration. Lets prey common sense prevails.

A silly decision made by silly politicians based on a romantic ideology rather than logic and no thought given to the consequences of their actions.
No serious government in the world has recognised their action. The EU won't just open the door for them. What currency will they use? It's about a thousand years since Catalan was an autonomous region. What about the areas of Catalan that reach far into France (Montpelier/Perpignan) or are they creating new borders as well there?
The whole thing is childish and not thought through.

Whilst I repeatedly hear Catalan media saying 90% of the people voted for independence, they conveniently ignore that less than 43% of the Catalan population voted - hardly a concensus!

In terms of potential impact around the other Spanish regions, I've seen none - unlike the terrorist attacks in Barcelona, which resulted in armed guards patrolling Carrefour and Habaneras in Torrevieja and La Zenia Boulevard.

I think the major problem now is if some hot heads go off on a rampage and the the Administration do not handle it properly could lead to demonstration all over.this is a very serious situation for all of Spain.

Re ''A silly decision made by silly politicians based on a romantic ideology rather than logic and no thought given to the consequences of their actions.
No serious government in the world has recognised their action. The EU won't just open the door for them. What currency will they use? It's about a thousand years since Catalan was an autonomous region. What about the areas of Catalan that reach far into France (Montpelier/Perpignan) or are they creating new borders as well there?
The whole thing is childish and not thought through''
What a very ignorant way to dismiss people, although I personally don't agree with Catalonia seeking independence, they have a right to voice their opinions. As to it being childish, it is far to serious a matter to be discussed in such a matter, if you really want to say something about this situation then don't be so obtuse and ignorant, at least try to be more understanding and constructive

Thanks to everyone who commented. I am just cautious of how things might be and how, if at all, it will affect the economy and security. I remember from years ago the problems that arose from the Basque region wanting independence and just wonder if anything has been reported in the Spanish media with regards to civil disturbance, outside of Catalonia .

Even after so many years why should the Catalonia people forget the German funded and equipped horror years of the Civi War and the Franco years ?

Stephen47 wrote:A silly decision made by silly politicians based on a romantic ideology rather than logic and no thought given to the consequences of their actions.
No serious government in the world has recognised their action. The EU won't just open the door for them. What currency will they use? It's about a thousand years since Catalan was an autonomous region. What about the areas of Catalan that reach far into France (Montpelier/Perpignan) or are they creating new borders as well there?
The whole thing is childish and not thought through.

Oops, read the first sentence and I thought you were talking about Brexit!

And you’re right with “no serious government in the world has recognised their action”, only the SNP has shown support.