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Re: When Did Actresses Become Actors?

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:25 am
by earlybay
I note in newspaper reports they say “Spain international sergio Ramos “ (etc . .) while I used to write “Spanish international . . . “

Re: When Did Actresses Become Actors?

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 1:15 pm
by tonyhobbs
I understand you can use Chicos. (Male) in Spain for a group of males and females mixed, The other phrase that niggles me is that's a difficult ask, instead of question! ,!

Re: When Did Actresses Become Actors?

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 1:43 pm
by Harry Epsom
‘Yeah, no’ is another modern aggrevation.

Re: When Did Actresses Become Actors?

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 1:58 pm
by Martin the artist
tonyhobbs wrote:I understand you can use Chicos. (Male) in Spain for a group of males and females mixed,
You often find they now put chic@s with the @ sign to stand for o/a too now.

Re: When Did Actresses Become Actors?

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 2:39 pm
by Soprano1
As an actress & singer myself... I trained as an Actress, my title changed overnight however I prefer actress.

Re: When Did Actresses Become Actors?

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 3:28 pm
by marcliff
tonyhobbs wrote:I understand you can use Chicos. (Male) in Spain for a group of males and females mixed, The other phrase that niggles me is that's a difficult ask, instead of question! ,!



All mixed groups become masculine when mixed.
Hijo is son, Hija is daughter but children (regardless of mix) is hijos. Amigo - male friend, Amiga - female friend, Amigos - friends regardless of mix.
And so on.
However, that has always been so. My point was actors/actresses etc have been around for hundreds of years but seems to have changed overnight.

Now I see some stupid singer wants to be called them instead of him or her and their instead of his or hers. That really is self-centred idiocy. I might bend a little with the prevailing wind and refer to said singer as "it" but that's as far as I'm going.

Re: When Did Actresses Become Actors?

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:43 pm
by blingle
This is a rather horrific thread,and I'm surprised it's been allowed to run.

Times have changed. Society is now accepting of these changes.

Bigoted views shouldn't be tolerated. Live and let live.

Re: When Did Actresses Become Actors?

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:56 pm
by Chrisdee
Oh do me a favour!!

blingle wrote:This is a rather horrific thread,and I'm surprised it's been allowed to run.

Times have changed. Society is now accepting of these changes.

Bigoted views shouldn't be tolerated. Live and let live.

Re: When Did Actresses Become Actors?

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:21 pm
by blingle
What exactly does that mean?

Are you suggesting that bigoted views are OK?

Re: When Did Actresses Become Actors?

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:34 pm
by marcliff
blingle wrote:What exactly does that mean?

Are you suggesting that bigoted views are OK?



I think it means you are missing the whole point. It is about the changing of the English language for no reason at all.
Pronouns and masculine/feminine nomenclatures have been around for hundreds of years. Every language has it but, for some reason and probably and American influence, we are changing ours but no other language is.

It does not need changing and shouldn't be changed.
It has nothing to do with bigotry, merely maintaining the language in the way it should be maintained.
You can't refer to someone as "them" or "their" because those words have totally different meanings.
Imagine a cricket commentary, "Them bowling it rubs the ball to shine the thing and bowls to their batperson who shrugs it to the left them".
Ridiculous.

Languages evolve but don't, or shouldn't, drastically change.
That you read it as bigoted shows a total misunderstanding of the original post.

Anyway, enough. Just pondering.