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The death rate % appears to be far higher than we were first led to believe.

Italy: Cases 143,626 Deaths 18279 = 12.73% Death rate

Spain: Cases 157,022 Deaths 15843 = 10.09% Death rate

UK: Cases 65,077 Deaths 7978 = 12.26% Death rate

These figures are of close of play yesterday.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Adey wrote:The death rate % appears to be far higher than we were first led to believe.

Italy: Cases 143,626 Deaths 18279 = 12.73% Death rate

Spain: Cases 157,022 Deaths 15843 = 10.09% Death rate

UK: Cases 65,077 Deaths 7978 = 12.26% Death rate

These figures are of close of play yesterday.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

But, that case figure, only included those tested positive. There are many more CV victims that are not in there. However, like you, I think we're currently running at more than 2%

I think the 2% is based on the Chinese figures which are questionable.

The statistics require careful interpretation. The death rate is for people who died in hospital, so does not include care homes or just dying at home. So actual death rate will be higher. But number of cases is also limited see quote from Worldmeters.info


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• NOTE: UK Government: "Today’s figures for positive tests have been adjusted to include positive case results from swab testing for key workers and their households (pillar 2). These will be included in the daily figures from today, 10 April. If these results were excluded from the figures, as they have been previously, the daily increase in the number of people who tested positive would have been 5,195. Data on positive case results from swab testing for key workers and their households between 25 March and 8 April is available" [source]
  
  Worldometer will reallocate the additional increase over the preceding days from March 25 based on the historical table provided by the UK [source]”

This figure does not include people at home with symptoms or those without symptoms, but who still have the virus. So true number with the virus will be far higher.

You can’t really work out the death rate until all cases have ended. In China, which appears to be close to the end the total cases are 81,953 and deaths 3,339 so a rate of 4%.

I noticed the Death Rate in the UK was higher than countries with similar Positive Cases (a week or so ago they were S Korea and Switzerland) and terrible compared to Germany in percentages.
Very worrying for your family & friends back home.

One of the problems, in the production of scientifically and clinically accurate figures, is the intervention of politicians

It's scary reading - but wonder just how much faith we can put in these statistics.

If the figures don't include anyone who hasn't been tested - and we know most haven't. Half my family in the UK had high temperature and coughs together for a few days, but came out the other side? Did they have it, did they have something similar - another virus? We don't know.

Also as others mention, many things are not recorded correctly - people with heart disease. dying of a heart attack, but actually it was Chronovirus which has done this at times, but written down as heart disease and not Chronovirus.

Governments wanting to keep a lid on things - worried about psychology of 'the nation' - calls to 'mental wellbeing charities' - up 8 x so many other implications.

The planet has 7.5 billion people - and 102,000 so far have died - from this, even if you doubled that figure to account for the misreported & unknown, in order for us to get to a 'global 10% average' then 750 million people would die globally from this, at the moment anyway, whilst figures are climbing it would seem we won't get near that number? I bloody well hope not.

It appears that there are 3 strains; A, B and C. China had type A and then B, USA has B, Europe has type C, looks as if C might be more deadly

Spain.. recovered.. 59,109

UK recovered...344

I know that the UK is a couple of weeks behind Spain..

But..344?

Glassfull wrote:One of the problems, in the production of scientifically and clinically accurate figures, is the intervention of politicians

too true,