Re: REGISTER OF FOREIGN NATIONALS
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:25 pm
What are the benefits (if any) of registering?
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Tootandploot wrote:What are the benefits (if any) of registering?
Tootandploot wrote:Thanks Marcliff. Would you happen to know the requirements, particularly health care. Would I be covered by uk healthcare and ehic or is additional cover required.
marcliff wrote:Correct. In fact, residencia is the wrong name as only non-EU nationals can apply for residencia. Us Brits (and other EU citizens) go on to the Register of foreign EU citizens resident in Spain. Slightly different but we call it residency as it's much easier to do so.
Note, you can go on to this register and effectively be a resident in Spain but you do not need to become a fiscal resident unless you live here all year round and have your main financial base here. For example, if you work in UK for more than 3 months and all your financial dealings are UK (along with your taxes and NICs) you can become a non-fiscal resident in Spain. It's just a way of formalising your status. Normally you become tax resident in Spain if you spend more than 6 months but the tax people in UK can give you a tax residency status for UK if you can prove your main financial and living ties are with the UK.
You should go on to this register even if you spend more than 3 months in Spain. Free movement with no visa or documentation is only valid for up to 3 months so residency after that should be done.
Espanabums wrote:Tootandploot wrote:What are the benefits (if any) of registering?
Not many, apart from being able to register on the padron, a requirement is some areas.
It is however a requirement of living in Spain, you do not have a choice. If you spend more than 90 days in one lump you are obliged to register and to do so you have to provide proof of full health care provision and sufficient income as not to be a burden on the state.
Paulr wrote:Espanabums wrote:Tootandploot wrote:What are the benefits (if any) of registering?
Not many, apart from being able to register on the padron, a requirement is some areas.
It is however a requirement of living in Spain, you do not have a choice. If you spend more than 90 days in one lump you are obliged to register and to do so you have to provide proof of full health care provision and sufficient income as not to be a burden on the state.
You don't need to be registered on the Extranjeros (register of Foreign Nationals) to be able to register on the Padron. Not exactly like for like, but the closest thing we have in the UK to Spain's Padron, is the Census. Applications to join the Padron should be made at the Town Hall of the area you live in. We were told that we had to register, because we would be asked to provide our Padron registration certificate if we wanted to buy anything over Eu 1,000, but in fact no-one has ever asked for it, they only ever want our NIE numbers. It's a shame though, because signing on the Padron enables your local Town Hall to apply for central funding from Madrid based on the number of residents in each locality, so it ultimately benefits us as residents and is probably a 'Good citizen' type of thing to do
Niktam wrote:Thanks Marcliff. My husband and I live in Spain permanently, early retirees, so no income in Spain, but we own a house here and pay for private healthcare. Hubby has a military pension, which has to be taxed and paid in the UK, I have two private pensions and rental income from a property we own in the UK. From what you've said, it sounds as if I should be asking HMRC for us to have UK tax residency, even though, as year-round inhabitants in Spain, we would usually become fiscal residents here? Just double-checking I've correctly interpreted what you've said please? Many thanks.
Don't get tied up on numbers as even if you are in Spain for more than half the year you need to look at your tax domicile which is not the same as residency. It gets very complicated and you may need advice.