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Thanks guys, much appreciated

Espanabums wrote:Our residencia, green credit card sized, says permanente

As would a TIE.

It's an entire universe beyond paranoid to even imagine that some day in the future the Spanish government might seek to discriminate between the two.

The reasons for periodic renewals are totally innocent and no different than for passports and driving licences etc.

Still waiting for that convincing and RATIONAL argument against the TIE.

I can understand changing every 10 years especially as it has a photo. None of us stay looking the same.

It’s not local sorry in Alicante at foreign office you have to make an appointment ( plenty to do tie) you then go get with paperwork passport old residency passport photo get your finger prints done then return in 2-3 weeks somewhere else to pick up the card, all in Alicante been for first bit waiting for card

How do you get appointment please

A.N.Other wrote:

Espanabums wrote:Our residencia, green credit card sized, says permanente

As would a TIE.

It's an entire universe beyond paranoid to even imagine that some day in the future the Spanish government might seek to discriminate between the two.

The reasons for periodic renewals are totally innocent and no different than for passports and driving licences etc.

Still waiting for that convincing and RATIONAL argument against the TIE.

It may say permanente on it, but you still have to renew it every ten years. I have a perfectly valid, and in fact for a British Citizen, the only valid, form of ID in my British passport.

For every day ID, I have my Spanish drivers licence on my phone with the MiDGT app and that satisfies the Guardia Civil, so why do I need to have yet another form of ID?

You have every right to exchange yours if you want to, but you are not the residencia police so what difference does it make if we decline the option to exchange, especially when the Spanish Prime Minister and the British Ambassador to Spain have gone on record to say that we do not need to do so.

Chrisdee wrote:I can understand changing every 10 years especially as it has a photo. None of us stay looking the same.

Trying to track down official confirmation but read elsewhere this morning that TIE renewals will not be required for the over 70's.

If true, and it would seem to make some sense, for those qualifying it immediately demolishes one of the already very few claimed disadvantages of switching.

Also from the Withdrawal Agreememt:

Article 14

Five years after the end of the transition period, the host State may decide no longer to accept national identity cards for the purposes of entry to or exit from its territory if such cards do not include a chip that complies with the applicable International Civil Aviation Organisation standards related to biometric identification.

So every chance that the TIE WILL become mandatory or at least for anyone wishing to leave and/or return to the country by plane or ferry.

A.N.Other wrote:

Chrisdee wrote:I can understand changing every 10 years especially as it has a photo. None of us stay looking the same.

Trying to track down official confirmation but read elsewhere this morning that TIE renewals will not be required for the over 70's.

If true, and it would seem to make some sense, for those qualifying it immediately demolishes one of the already very few claimed disadvantages of switching.

Also from the Withdrawal Agreememt:

Article 14

Five years after the end of the transition period, the host State may decide no longer to accept national identity cards for the purposes of entry to or exit from its territory if such cards do not include a chip that complies with the applicable International Civil Aviation Organisation standards related to biometric identification.

So every chance that the TIE WILL become mandatory or at least for anyone wishing to leave and/or return to the country by plane or ferry.

UK citizens do not hold National Identity cards, only their passport which includes said chip. You are like a dog with a bone, just accept that people will disagree with your views and stop trying to bully people into submission, especially as you do not have all the information to back up those views.

Thank you

marcliff wrote:TIE appointment