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Re: Legalities of E Cycles.
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Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:09 amby Chrisdee
From what I've heard blue badges in Spain are very difficult to get
Re: Legalities of E Cycles.
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Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:12 amby Glassfull
PhilipGilbert2016 wrote:Yes, insurance I would be quite happy with and cycle helmets also, but somebody i.e. the EU has designated these as Mopeds, i.e. Motorised vehicles so they will be classed as such for registration, number plates, ITV tests, crash helmet etc. These bikes are tiny and certainly not safe with such small wheels to ride on pot holed roads jostling with trucks and such like. Agreed the youngsters zooming around the footpaths on electric scooters as we have witnessed in Valencia recently are a pain, but it is a shame that this minority has once again affected normal responsible people just trying to enjoy the rest of their lives in the fresh air and sunshine.
My research doesn't show this legislation as an EU directive but a Spanish Law.
Please provide a link to support your anti EU rhetoric?
Re: Legalities of E Cycles.
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Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:16 amby jpeg
From the N332 Traffico site and CAB Spain
Mobility Scooters and Powered Wheelchairs:
You don’t need a licence to drive a mobility scooter or powered wheelchair.
You can’t drive in bus lanes, ‘cycle only’ lanes or motorways.
All normal parking restrictions apply to mobility scooters and powered wheelchairs.
All vehicles can be used on footpaths, pavements, bridleways, and in pedestrian areas and can only be used on the road if a pavement is not available.
1. Does a mobility vehicle have to be registered?
No, in Spain you do not need to register them.
2. Do I need insurance?
Whilst it is not a legal requirement to have insurance for a mobility vehicle, it is strongly advised that people take out insurance to cover personal safety, other people’s safety and the value of the vehicle. In some cases your household insurance may provide cover but you would need to check this with your insurance provider. You will have to pay compensation if you have an accident and it was your fault.
3. Vehicle tax?
– You don’t have to pay vehicle tax for any mobility scooter or powered wheelchair.
4.Can I carry passengers?
Mobility vehicles designed to carry two people cannot be used on the pavement or road because they don’t meet the definition of an invalid carriage in law. With regard to children, the law does not explicitly state that an adult carrying an infant in a sling/pouch is unlawful. However, it is not permitted to carry anyone else on a mobility vehicle e.g. children standing on the vehicle etc.
With thanks to the N332 website for this information.
Please note: The information provided is based upon our understanding of current legislation. It is not legal advice but is provided freely to enable you to be properly informed. We recommend that if you are considering taking action, you should seek professional advice.
Re: Legalities of E Cycles.
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Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:17 amby DuFay
Hi Jpeg you should be getting paid by these people as ive tried to find the info but could not see it Thats why i asked N332 without success, & am now waiting on a reply from CAB.
Cheers Doug.
Re: Legalities of E Cycles.
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Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:45 amby PhilipGilbert2016
Glassfull wrote:PhilipGilbert2016 wrote:Yes, insurance I would be quite happy with and cycle helmets also, but somebody i.e. the EU has designated these as Mopeds, i.e. Motorised vehicles so they will be classed as such for registration, number plates, ITV tests, crash helmet etc. These bikes are tiny and certainly not safe with such small wheels to ride on pot holed roads jostling with trucks and such like. Agreed the youngsters zooming around the footpaths on electric scooters as we have witnessed in Valencia recently are a pain, but it is a shame that this minority has once again affected normal responsible people just trying to enjoy the rest of their lives in the fresh air and sunshine.
My research doesn't show this legislation as an EU directive but a Spanish Law.
Please provide a link to support your anti EU rhetoric?
Our bikes although less than 1kw are 350watt and capable of 30k/h so they just fall into the moped bracket. See EU regulation attached which what the Spanish have based their regulation on.
Re: Legalities of E Cycles.
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Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:55 amby jpeg
That was issued in May 2017 ,when did you buy your mini bikes
Re: Legalities of E Cycles.
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Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:49 pmby PhilipGilbert2016
Hi jpeg, bought in Feb 18 so I guess we didn't do our homework in order to see this coming! It will be interesting to see what our insurance company says and whether the police have got their hands full enough to be worried about a couple of oldies poodling along caminos.
Re: Legalities of E Cycles.
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Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:15 amby oldman59
PhilipGilbert2016 wrote:So, here we go again with elf and safety and politicians that are determined to prevent ordinary decent people from enjoying life by imposing restrictions, laws and costs, just in case! My partner and I invested a decent amount of money on the 2 e bikes as shown in the photos. Brilliant to throw in the back of the car and travel round Spain, get them out and see more of this beautiful country. Not any more! Will need ITV registration, motorcycle helmets, not bicycle helmets, moped licence, compulsory insurance etc just because we can't peddle them and they have a throttle. We used to love poodling along promenades, parks and cycle lanes etc and as we are in our 60's we are not speed merchants and very aware of what we are doing. Now we will be confined to the dangerous roads, not allowed on bike lanes and look right plonkers wearing motorcyle helmets. We also have 2 standard pedal assisted normal bikes but they do not come under these new restrictions but they can go faster! Crazy!